Do you think God takes care about our sexual life

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We as humans might not see how same sex sexual relations are harmful. However, please note that God designed us physically different for a specific purpose-to marry, procreate and fill the Earth. Anything that goes contrary to that purpose is deemed a sin, whether it be dwelling in one city and leaving the rest of the Earth unfilled, insisting that mankind is the one to determine right or wrong, or whether it be a refusal to abide by his plan of having males and females only to have sex. If it goes contrary to his ultimate purpose for mankind and the earth, it is a sin.

What is the difference between sin and defilement?
 
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Are you positing that people choose to be homosexual?
No, not always. Sometimes people are born with a strong predisposition. But the Bible obviously doesn't consider that to be relevant to the choice of behavior that goes along with it.
It still demands abstinence. It considers the holy spirit sufficiently powerful to transform a person's personality so that overcoming the tendency is possible.

2 Peter 1:3
His divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him that hath called us to glory and virtue
 
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Since you see a difference please point it out.

What do you think sexual love being base means?

What is eros love?

So, moving from the base to the pure, we have eros, storge, philia, and agapé. This is not to denigrate eros as sinful or impure. Sexual love is not inherently unclean or evil.
 
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What do you think sexual love being base means?

What is eros love?
Sex is only base if practiced outside the biblically acceptable marriage arrangement.
If practiced with the same sex.
If practiced with animals.
If practiced via masturbation.

Eros love?

Éros (ἔρως érōs) means "love, mostly of the sexual passion."[6] The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "intimate love." Plato refined his own definition: Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical attraction."

In the Symposium, the most famous ancient work on the subject,

Plato has Socrates argue that eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth, the ideal "Form" of youthful beauty that leads us humans to feel erotic desire – thus suggesting that even that sensually based love aspires to the non-corporeal, spiritual plane of existence; that is, finding its truth, just like finding any truth, leads to transcendence.[7] Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth through the means of eros.
Eros (concept) - Wikipedia
 
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Sex is only base if practiced outside the biblically acceptable marriage arrangement.
If practiced with the same sex.
If practiced with animals.
If practiced via masturbation.

Eros love?

Do you agree with me marriage is something nebulous and hard to define?
 
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Do you agree with me marriage is something nebulous and hard to define?
No, I have never had difficulty defining what marriage is in reference to who the participants in the arrangement are supposed to be since the Bible clearly tells us that it involves a man and a woman. How do YOU define marriage
 
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No, I have never had difficulty defining what marriage is in reference to who the participants in the arrangement are supposed to be since the Bible clearly tells us that it involves a man and a woman. How do YOU define marriage

I'm not talking about the participants-the institution to me seems vague. do you disagree with that?
 
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I'm not talking about the participants-the institution to me seems vague. do you disagree with that?
I have never perceived it that way. Of course there are cultural differences which have to be taken into consideration. But I am viewing it from the Christian viewpoint alone.
 
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I never said the word was specifically in the modern translations you're just confused. Look we all read things wrong and make mistakes just move on. You sound immature almost whiny tbh.

All you really had to say was, "I misspoke" instead of doubling down on your mispeaking and then attempting an ad hominem.
 
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All you really had to say was, "I misspoke" instead of doubling down on your misspeaking and then attempting an ad hominem.


Now you're complaining and you even attempted to accurse me of attempting at an ad hominem when I didn't even call you any names.

I said you sound immature and whiny...but I didn't state that your character as an individual is whiny or immature, just you're acting like that. I'm not calling you immature but rather simply stating that you are making yourself seem immature.
 
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I think it's important to consider the bigger picture. Jesus explained that God is love, so it's important to begin with that foundation when trying to understand God's perspective in His design of humanity. He wouldn't create us to have a strong desire for something that is inherently sinful, just to make things even harder for us or to 'mess with' us.

Rather, it is also explained in the scriptures that children are a gift from God, and He designed us to partner up and be in loving, dedicated service to each other (couples); the vow of marriage is a matter of entering into a covenant, a vow to be lovingly dedicated to each other (in the context of a marriage) for the sake of upholding the family structure which God designed.

When a society starts to deviate away from that, it causes all sorts of problems for children. Then those children grow up to be adult members of that society, and problems can quickly spiral and reinforce themselves in this manner.

So the thing about it, is that God designed humanity to operate in a specific way, with love for others at the core of it all. This means thinking about what is best for our societies (love your neighbor), what is best for someone with whom we are intimate, what is best for children, etc. Rather than thinking in terms of, "What feels good to my carnal nature right now in this moment?"

I also think this is why there is nowhere in the scripture that states that masturbation is wrong, yet looking upon others with lustful eyes is considered a sin. Masturbating doesn't harm others/society, but the onslaught to our interpersonal perceptions can be very damaging, from pornography and such, as it trains the mind to objectify others and over time lose the ability to enjoy normal intimacy. There was the one case that is sometimes used to warn against masturbation, although in that particular case, the man in the scriptures was being disobedient to God and for selfish reasons, i.e. spilling his seed on the ground so as to avoid giving the woman a child and so he could therefore continue to sleep with her, even though she was not his wife. It's a pretty big stretch to call what he was doing "masturbation". So personally I don't see anything in the scriptures that says you can't er, relieve yourself, if you are single, but rather just that if one does decide to have a sexual partner, then it should be with a big picture perspective that is based in love. But since that is difficult for a lot of people struggling in the moment, God made it very simple for everyone with simple, straightforward instructions and essentially explaining that anything outside of those instructions in regards to sex is off limits.

Everything declared a sin in the new testament is something that is harmful to ourselves, individually, to each other and/or as a collective whole. This is part of understanding that, "God is love." But we have to be able to at least try to think in big picture terms, rather then just within our own immediate, personal bubbles. God is not a tyrant with arbitrary killjoy rules. Rather He created all living beings to operate optimally in a specifically designed way, for our physical, emotional and ultimately spiritual health. His commands are meant to help us stay within that design, so that we don't hurt ourselves or others, even accidentally.

If you get yourself a new houseplant that has instructions to provide it with specific soil type, specific sun exposure time and angle, specific watering amounts and frequencies, etc and then you ignore those instructions and do things differently, then your plant will likely not thrive very well and may even die. This doesn't mean it is somehow 'wrong' to attempt to keep a houseplant, but it's important to go about the right way, to the best of your ability, or you will harm the plant.
 
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Is sex something bad? There is something wrong if the act indeed is full of love? Do you think He get's sad if you do soemthing you are programed for? Nothing wrong if it's a normal act, I think. Into an order. Something you control, inside a bounderies. What do you think about?

I realize that for christians rulers it was always the most important thing, more important than the goodness and other things that are in fact in the Holy Gospel.
“I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything. You say, “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.” The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.

Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies. (1 Corinthians 6)
 
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Is sex something bad? There is something wrong if the act indeed is full of love? Do you think He get's sad if you do soemthing you are programed for? Nothing wrong if it's a normal act, I think. Into an order. Something you control, inside a bounderies. What do you think about?

I realize that for christians rulers it was always the most important thing, more important than the goodness and other things that are in fact in the Holy Gospel.
You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh ; rather, serve one another humbly in love. For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. (Galatians 5)
 
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Is sex something bad? There is something wrong if the act indeed is full of love? Do you think He get's sad if you do soemthing you are programed for? Nothing wrong if it's a normal act, I think. Into an order. Something you control, inside a bounderies. What do you think about?

I realize that for christians rulers it was always the most important thing, more important than the goodness and other things that are in fact in the Holy Gospel.
What sex is is something powerful. It has the power to consume our thoughts, and drive our behavior and dominate our lives.

Christian morality is not designed to make God feel better, but to make people feel better. The Law in general is not for the sake of God, but for our own sake.
Morality is indeed the modes of control, the setting of boundaries, the parameters to direct a very powerful force in human life into a vehicle for love and into the primary means for us to become co-creators with even the Creator himself, who has after all made us all, male and female, in his own image.
 
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