Mass sexual assault reported at Germany music festival

[PreachersWife2004]

Exactly, it's pre-refugee/migrants meaning it's been going on. It doesn't excuse the attacks, but the paranoia and hatred against foreign/Muslim men isn't justified when the same paranoia and hatred is not present against native/indigenous/ethnically German men even though they were part of the mass sexual assault problem.

10,000+ refugee children are missing in Europe, many presumably missing because of indigenous sex traffickers in Europe. Where is the hysteria regarding them (both the children and the traffickers)? Where is the indictment on European culture?

Michelle had her #bringourgirlshome sign. Wasn't that enough?

What I meant by pre-pro-refuge was that it wasn't a current link, which is what I was asking for. The question posed earlier was why the poster only posted mass sexual assaults by Muslims. So...are there are other mass sexual assaults being perpetrated right now other than the ones being done by the nice little innocent refugees?

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Your question was: "Got links of other mass sexual assaults taking place?" That link provides one example. Here are a couple more:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ault-on-increase-at-concerts-experts-say.html
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/arti...c-at-music-festivals-and-nobody-seems-to-care
http://www.mtv.com/news/516319/two-woodstock-fans-allegedly-raped-in-mosh-pits/

1.) What does the date have anything to do with it? 2011 is still pretty current. These festivals still happen. Sexual assault is an issue. Maybe widespread coordinated attacks are rare, but does it matter if they're coordinated or not?

2.) I was at Woodstock 99 - it was almost all middle class white kids, i.e. more-or-less one culture. Still had rapes.

3.) Nobody's trying to excuse it.

I mean currently. This is news and current events. If there are other mass sexual assaults going on, by all means, post them. The question, as I stated above, was why a particular poster only posted about mass sexual assaults that involve Muslims. I repeat: If there are other mass sexual assaults going on, by all means, post them.

 

[Judahs_Lion]

One day we'll read that German women killed those who tried to rape them in public. The attempted rape perpetrators having been from Pakistan, or Syria, or wherever.

News reports like this should forewarn all women in Germany to be prepared to fend off violent men like this. Use as much force as necessary to the fullest to defend one's body from rapists. And save other women in Germany from cur that think they're easy targets and deserved of this assault because they're infidel women.

I think if German men start to accompany their wives and daughters everywhere just to insure their safety we'll not hear of it reported as readily.
Nor would we likely hear that a group of Muslim men attempting rape of young women were found dead in an alley somewhere in Germany.

It's a shame that these type reports are making headlines in the first place. God be with these women. And God's grace and protection surround them as they endure.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

Michelle had her #bringourgirlshome sign. Wasn't that enough?

A specific cause for Nigerian girls kidnapped by Muslim men should be enough for mainly Muslim refugee/migrant children at risk of sex trafficking by Christian/atheist Europeans?

What I meant by pre-pro-refuge was that it wasn't a current link, which is what I was asking for. The question posed earlier was why the poster only posted mass sexual assaults by Muslims. So...are there are other mass sexual assaults being perpetrated right now other than the ones being done by the nice little innocent refugees?

How do you know this was done by refugees? Even most of the arrested perpetrators in Cologne weren't refugees iirc.

Secondly, a Human Rights Watch report shed some light on border police sexual harassment in Macedonia:

Lamia, a 43-year-old Palestinian woman from Yarmouk, Syria, who had been detained for 72 days in Gazi Baba in the period from October until December 2014 said she and other female detainees felt unsafe and vulnerable particularly because police guards in Gazi Baba were often drunk: “They drank and they would come at night in our room to count us. Whenever they were drunk and they came to us, we stuck together; we all stayed in one room. Sometimes they tried to put their hands on you.”

Human Rights Watch also spoke directly with Asma, a 20-year-old Syrian woman Fatima had identified as another victim of harassment, who said that the same police officer, “N” harassed her “on a daily basis" during the 148 days she spent in Gazi Baba:

"He tried whatever he could to get me alone in a room with him. He used to approach me and whisper to me that I am very beautiful and that he would help me out, that he would personally look into my case. Then he would invite me to a room saying, ‘Come with me and you can make phone calls.’ Even if I had stayed [in detention] a year, I wouldn’t have surrendered to him. Touching my hair was a daily thing for him. Often he would pinch my cheeks or touch my shoulders and my back and I would take a few steps to escape from him. Once he approached me and said, ‘I want to kidnap you and take you to my house.’ I was very scared."

Asma told Human Rights Watch another police officer, whom she identified as “O” verbally harassed her as well. She said he would often cross her way and say things such as, “What I would do to you if you were not with your group [people she was arrested with].”

Imagine if these were non-Muslim German women describing their encounters with Muslims, refugees or otherwise.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

This time regarding a specific shelter in Cologne, Germaany:

"A group of refugee women have reported sexually harassment by security personnel at an emergency shelter in Cologne, the Local reported on Thursday.

....The women accused security personnel of repeatedly photographing and filming them while they take showers or breastfeed. Some reported that several security guards had attempted to persuade them to have sexual intercourse. Some even reported being raped by the guards, Spiegel reported.

A 19-year-old refugee woman told Der Spiegel that this is an "open secret," adding that security personnel put refugee women under pressure, threatening them that if they do not join, their husbands will be informed about the sexual assault or they will be kicked out. She said no women can go to the toilet alone or take a shower. She said a security guard attempted rape of a 16-year-old girl and when he was seen by several people, he ran away."

Migrant women reportedly sexually abused in German refugee shelters

 

[nightflight]

How do you know this was done by refugees? Even most of the arrested perpetrators in Cologne weren't refugees iirc.

No they weren't. They were immigrants a bit behind on the assimilation thing.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

How come you only make threads about sexual assault allegations in Europe when the alleged perpetrators are Muslims?

The issue with posting rape statistics from our own country is that you immediately get accused of having a "racist" agenda.

...but that aside.

I can understand why American Muslims get upset that a spotlight is being shined on the rapes that are occurring at the hands of the Muslim refugees...and I get it, it's often times being used to paint Islam with a broad brush, so there's some justification for them taking umbrage at stories being highlighted for strategic reasons.

...but stories like this highlight a truth that many are not aware of. That truth being, the Muslims that have grown up in westernized/progressive societies are NOT the same as the Muslim refugees that are coming into these Euro nations and causing issues. Especially in terms of attitudes towards women and gays.

It'd be like them bringing in African Christian refugees from Joseph Kony's crew in Uganda, and then expecting them to behave the same way that your Christian neighbor would.

The difference is in the ratios on a global perspective. The US is pretty tame on all religious fronts...we have our handful of whack job extremists from each religious group...but in most cases, regardless of the religion, people are pretty peaceful about their religious views. However, if you start looking at other areas of the world, that's not always the case.

While there are some places in the world where Christianity is a very scary thing, there are a lot of places in Africa, the Middle East, and parts of Asia where Islam is a very scary thing. (especially if you're a woman)

 

[PreachersWife2004]

A specific cause for Nigerian girls kidnapped by Muslim men should be enough for mainly Muslim refugee/migrant children at risk of sex trafficking by Christian/atheist Europeans?



How do you know this was done by refugees? Even most of the arrested perpetrators in Cologne weren't refugees iirc.

Secondly, a Human Rights Watch report shed some light on border police sexual harassment in Macedonia:

Lamia, a 43-year-old Palestinian woman from Yarmouk, Syria, who had been detained for 72 days in Gazi Baba in the period from October until December 2014 said she and other female detainees felt unsafe and vulnerable particularly because police guards in Gazi Baba were often drunk: “They drank and they would come at night in our room to count us. Whenever they were drunk and they came to us, we stuck together; we all stayed in one room. Sometimes they tried to put their hands on you.”

Human Rights Watch also spoke directly with Asma, a 20-year-old Syrian woman Fatima had identified as another victim of harassment, who said that the same police officer, “N” harassed her “on a daily basis" during the 148 days she spent in Gazi Baba:

"He tried whatever he could to get me alone in a room with him. He used to approach me and whisper to me that I am very beautiful and that he would help me out, that he would personally look into my case. Then he would invite me to a room saying, ‘Come with me and you can make phone calls.’ Even if I had stayed [in detention] a year, I wouldn’t have surrendered to him. Touching my hair was a daily thing for him. Often he would pinch my cheeks or touch my shoulders and my back and I would take a few steps to escape from him. Once he approached me and said, ‘I want to kidnap you and take you to my house.’ I was very scared."

Asma told Human Rights Watch another police officer, whom she identified as “O” verbally harassed her as well. She said he would often cross her way and say things such as, “What I would do to you if you were not with your group [people she was arrested with].”

Imagine if these were non-Muslim German women describing their encounters with Muslims, refugees or otherwise.

Huh? I'm asking about mass sexual assault stories, like the one in the OP. Are there any? Not individual stories about police harassment.

And I'm sorry I failed to note the dripping sarcasm over Michelle's hashtag sign. That was the stupidest PR stunt she's ever pulled.

 

[smaneck]

cur that think they're easy targets and deserved of this assault because they're infidel women.

And you know this is their motivation, how?

 

[smaneck]

That truth being, the Muslims that have grown up in westernized/progressive societies are NOT the same as the Muslim refugees that are coming into these Euro nations and causing issues.

Wait a minute! It wasn't refugees who are suspected in these rapes, it was Pakistanis. Pakistanis are not refugees. I think the same was true in Cologne etc. They were N. Africans or South Asians, not refugees. However, one very rarely hears of a South Asian immigrant in the US acting this way. The difference is not religion, it is class. In the United States South Asians, including Pakistanis are the most prosperous immigrant group in the US. At the lower end, they run our convenience stores. At the upper end, they are our doctors. Yes, sometimes they get radicalized as we see from the San Bernardino shooting, but they don't go round assaulting women or engaging in other kinds of criminal behavior just for kicks. In Europe, however, Muslims make up the bulk of the underclass. They are used for low-level jobs, much like our Hispanics and poverty breeds crime.

 

[smaneck]

Got links of other mass sexual assaults taking place?

Here you go. Huge problem in Brazil right now:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...dia-shocks-brazil_us_57489146e4b03ede4414c68a

And all too common in India:

http://www.thedawn-news.org/2016/03/15/mass-rapes-in-india-show-what-women-mean-for-the-country/

 

[smaneck]

These were assaults by one particular culture.

No, they are not. Cultures do not assault, people do.

 

[nightflight]

Here you go. Huge problem in Brazil right now:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...dia-shocks-brazil_us_57489146e4b03ede4414c68a

And all too common in India:

http://www.thedawn-news.org/2016/03/15/mass-rapes-in-india-show-what-women-mean-for-the-country/

Its almost like some cultures are different, and women are treated worse! Hey, let's import it!

 

[nightflight]

No, they are not. Cultures do not assault, people do.

People of a certain culture may have more compunction, or think that its a bit more acceptable to engage in certain behaviors. Do you really doubt this?

 

[smaneck]

I think if German men start to accompany their wives and daughters everywhere just to insure their safety we'll not hear of it reported as readily.

Wait a minute, that is precisely what women in countries like Saudi Arabia have to do, let men accompany them everywhere. No, women should be able to 'take back the night.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_Back_the_Night

 

[smaneck]

People of a certain culture may have more compunction, or think that its a bit more acceptable to engage in certain behaviors. Do you really doubt this?

There is a greater correlation between poverty and such behaviors.

 

[smaneck]

Its almost like some cultures are different, and women are treated worse! Hey, let's import it!

Or maybe the consequences of committing rape in this country are so severe they serve as a deterrent. In countries like Peru, a woman can be gang raped but if even one of the perpetrators offers to marry her, none will be charged. Their rationale for this ludicrous law? Deut: 22:28-29.

 

[nightflight]

There is a greater correlation between poverty and such behaviors.

So poverty leads to rape?

 

[nightflight]

Or maybe the consequences of committing rape in this country are so severe they serve as a deterrent. In countries like Peru, a woman can be gang raped but if even one of the perpetrators offers to marry her, none will be charged. Their rationale for this ludicrous law? Deut: 22:28-29.

And the rape laws in Muslim regions? Europe isn't importing hundreds of thousands of Peruvians.

 

[smaneck]

So poverty leads to rape?

I said there is a greater correlation between poverty and rape than there is between culture and rape. I did say it was causal. Obviously most poor people don't rape. Neither do most Muslims and most Hispanics,