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[Jordan Kurecki]

Christian values? Ted Cruz wants carpet bombing in the Middle East. I'm guessing that isn't what Jesus meant when he said:

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Is Cruz reading a different Bible?

Or is there a quote in the BIble where Jesus says "Love your enemies, but whenever necessary, carpet bomb them and blow their behinds back to the stone age, yeeeeha!

Cruz seems to be enamoured of guns as well. He's got an A+ rating from the NRA. What does Ted think Jesus meant when he said:

Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

Oh, I keep forgetting, I'm not reading the New Republican Translation of the Bible where Jesus loves corporate profits, booting the poor off aid and REALLY loves guns!

Sorry, my bad....

Non sense.

If someone breaks into your house and threatens to kill your family members, would you willingly let them for the sake of "loving your enemies"?

Listen as a nation, we have a right to defend ourselves from those who profess to be our enemies, that very same bible that you are quoting from and pulling out of context, shows the Israelites fighting and killing their enemies.

We have a right as a country to defend ourselves, if we don't defend out country then we are failing to love our own citizens.

If you love your wife, you will protect her and fight for her, if you love your country and it's citizens you will fight and protect them.

 

[Willtor]

Non sense.

If someone breaks into your house and threatens to kill your family members, would you willingly let them for the sake of "loving your enemies"?

Listen as a nation, we have a right to defend ourselves from those who profess to be our enemies, that very same bible that you are quoting from and pulling out of context, shows the Israelites fighting and killing their enemies.

We have a right as a country to defend ourselves, if we don't defend out country then we are failing to love our own citizens.

If you love your wife, you will protect her and fight for her, if you love your country and it's citizens you will fight and protect them.

If your enemy threatens you and yours, you don't set a bomb under his house and kill him and his. And if you would do this, at least have the courtesy not to blame it on Jesus.

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

If your enemy threatens you and yours, you don't set a bomb under his house and kill him and his. And if you would do this, at least have the courtesy not to blame it on Jesus.

IF your enemy already has set bombs and started attacking your neighbors and family, you don't sit by and wait for him to come bomb yours.

Your analogy is faulty, these people have already attacked others, and many of them have already openly professed them as our enemies. We have a God given responsibility to protect our loved ones and our country.

You can't tell your wife and children you love them if you know someone is coming to attack and kill them and you don't protect them.

It's one thing when someone comes to me and slaps me across the face and mock me and spit on my face, in that case I should love him and pray for him, When someone comes to me and they try to kill me, I have a God given right to defend myself, especially if I have a family to care and provide for, And especially I have a right to violence when my family is in danger.

Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

 

[Willtor]

IF your enemy already has set bombs and started attacking your neighbors and family, you don't sit by and wait for him to come bomb yours.

Your analogy is faulty, these people have already attacked others, and many of them have already openly professed them as our enemies. We have a God given responsibility to protect our loved ones and our country.

You can't tell your wife and children you love them if you know someone is coming to attack and kill them and you don't protect them.

It's one thing when someone comes to me and slaps me across the face and mock me and spit on my face, in that case I should love him and pray for him, When someone comes to me and they try to kill me, I have a God given right to defend myself, especially if I have a family to care and provide for, And especially I have a right to violence when my family is in danger.

Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

You say you have the right to violence when your family is in danger. Are there any limits to the amount of violence or who you are allowed to kill on the way to the person you fear?

 

[DLR]

It's not. She needed work. The Cruz campaign provided work even if it was just a bit part in the commercial.

It's compassionate conservatism in action.

LOL, no.....

So he was actually trying to help the Harlot out? Probably witnessing to her when he had time? Thanks, I think I understand now. I hope you are available for consulting if I ever run for office NightHawkeye.

Seriously though, I wish you all had seen the dozens of speeches from all candidate the past six months they spent in Iowa. The pandering to Christians is just incredible. It was a good laugh when Trump actually attended one of my local churches the week before caucus. Bibles and blue jeans are worth a few votes here. It's just how it is. Then they turn it off 90% for NH because it seems to be offensive there so they have practical choice if they want to be the president. Then right back on the next week for SC. But SC has a strong rep for responding well to rough politics so that starts up immediately. I can tell who actually spent some time in a church pew and may have actually been raised evangelical. I have a real good idea which two or three might answer to God. A minister will never be our president. Not that I believe that is necessarily a great idea, but it isn't even an option now.

Back on topic, Cruz will do what he says during campaign and he doesn't care if he locks up Congress trying. If he says he won't stand for a budget that represents $2-4T of new deficit in a single year that's exactly what he means so don't don't vote for him if you don't like it. There is a reason while "real establishment politicians" hate him. Reality is few of us like many is of the candidates we aren't going to vote for at the end of the day.

And finally, you want Cruz to act like Billy Graham and defend himself against Trump? Get real and look at Ben Carson's numbers. Others will fade too if they don't fight back. Bernie has no long-term chance against Clinton either unless he is willing to fight when here's PACs go negative, and they WILL if he wins anymore states. Rant over lol.

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

You say you have the right to violence when your family is in danger. Are there any limits to the amount of violence or who you are allowed to kill on the way to the person you fear?

What kind of things did God tell the Israelites to do when they conquered different Canaanite cities and lands?

I'll give you a hint, you probably would call God a tyrant had you lived back then.

 

[Willtor]

What kind of things did God tell the Israelites to do when they conquered different Canaanite cities and lands?

I'll give you a hint, you probably would call God a tyrant had you lived back then.

If that had happened, sure. But, just to be clear, you actually wouldn't have a problem with the scenario I laid out with the guy who killed your family, so you kill his? Since our justice system disagrees, should the laws change to allow this?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Christians tho should want someone with Christian values.

We aren't electing the Pope, we're electing the President. Americans should want someone with American values.

 

[EinsteinsGirl]

Also, just noticed the Christian values part of your comment. I could _definitely_ never vote for Cruz precisely because of this. I can agree to disagree with someone who thinks there are times when starting a war is justified. But carpet bombing? That's no Christian. That's a charlatan trying to sell you something and hiding it with "Look at me! I'm a Christian, just like you! Jesus supports indiscriminate killing if the intended targets are Muslims. They aren't like you and me (I'm a Christian like you, by the way)."

At this point, I'm inclined to look for a candidate who says that he or she is not a Christian. Then, at least I know he or she is sincere. That person's values are also probably more Christian than those of the "Christians" running for office.

I agree that God can use anyone He wants (including Trump) to accomplish His will. But I totally disagree with your analysis that Cruz isn't Christian. We need to get rid of ISIS in the land of Syria, not bring the Syrians here - that's the important matter. Instead, we're bringing Syrians here, not properly vetting them, and getting attacked from the inside. If it takes bombing to stop them then so be it.

Calling Cruz a fake Christian isn't supported by your personal belief that a Christian wouldn't carpet bomb. Jesus said He came to bring division and a sword.
Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword - matt 10:34

And so I disagree with your analysis of Cruz. Thanks for sharing tho

 

[EinsteinsGirl]

I caucused for him. He is very conservative and knowledgeable on Constitutional matters IMO. He is also uncompromising to a fault (understatement). I understand he even called the Republican Speaker of the House a liar. He isn't going to get support from the party establishment and doesn't have Trump's money so I'm not optimistic for his campaign. Trump is starting to pull away and I think he is going to go after him for better or worse. I think tomorrows debate is going to get interesting (and likely nasty).

looking forward to watching.
I still haven't gotten my mind around Trump

 

[EinsteinsGirl]

Well of course, but when it comes down to it, who cares? If she's just in a campaign commercial not playing herself or referencing her former career, why is this a big deal?

Because being affiliated with an un-repented porn star who "claims" to be a Christian is wrong according to the scriptures... and she does claim to be a Christian.
I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people - 1 Cor 5:9
Makes sense to me.

 

[EinsteinsGirl]

Why don't you understand why some don't support Cruz?

Did it ever occur to you, that other people have different opinions in what they want from a president?

Did it ever occur to you, that not all Christians agree with you on the qualities they want in a president?

Did it ever occur to you to use your manners?
LOL

 

[bhsmte]

Did it ever occur to you to use your manners?
LOL

Did it ever occur to you, not everyone agrees with you, including other Christians?

 

[EinsteinsGirl]

Listen as a nation, we have a right to defend ourselves from those who profess to be our enemies, that very same bible that you are quoting from and pulling out of context, shows the Israelites fighting and killing their enemies.

We have a right as a country to defend ourselves, if we don't defend out country then we are failing to love our own citizens.

Amen. Thank you, it's nice to see someone making sense.
People forget that even after the Lord wrote the 10 commandments stating " thou shalt not kill" He still had the Israelites go to war!

 

[DLR]

looking forward to watching.
I still haven't gotten my mind around Trump

Here's some more food for thought regarding my assertion he does have some principle. In Iowa, ethanol subsidies are a pretty big deal, and the lobby is strong. Politicians have to force everyone to use ethanol. It is cleaner and that is good. But it is generally not cost competitive vs gasoline (oil), and it definitely isn't right now. It cost about as much energy to manufacture as it yields. Cruz believes the US should use all our resources, but they must stand on their own without taxpayer subsidies, and that includes oil. Our governor is respected and was on a mission to make sure Cruz lose Iowa. Our newspapers too. It was political suicide and he asked us to vote for the country, and all his positions. Somehow it worked out for him.

Now regarding the carpet bombing statement. I'm not aware of the US doing that since Heroshima and Nagasaki. We arent going to carpet bomb anyone. Based on his subsequent comments, I think he had the term confused with "shock and awe". (Application of overwhelming force). Now he can't backtrack without looking weak in front of Trump, and more importantly Trumps supporters. 100% Ted's fault. He is running for president so no excuses. I hate that politicians have a problem admitting when they say someting stupid.

 

[Hank77]

You can't tell your wife and children you love them if you know someone is coming to attack and kill them and you don't protect them.

It's one thing when someone comes to me and slaps me across the face and mock me and spit on my face, in that case I should love him and pray for him, When someone comes to me and they try to kill me, I have a God given right to defend myself, especially if I have a family to care and provide for, And especially I have a right to violence when my family is in danger.

Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

Calling Cruz a fake Christian isn't supported by your personal belief that a Christian wouldn't carpet bomb. Jesus said He came to bring division and a sword.
Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword - matt 10:34

And this interpretation is what happens when one pulls scripture out of it's context.

I hate that politicians have a problem admitting when they say someting stupid.

Such as 'I don't have any healthcare.', like that one? I can't think of the other whooper he told more recently and again in NH. But if he had explained that statement it wouldn't have had the same impacted. I see that as manipulation.

 

[EinsteinsGirl]

And this interpretation is what happens when one pulls scripture out of it's context.

How ignorant of you.
JESUS used scripture "out of context" to make His points quite often.
I bet those apples taste mighty fine right about now..

 

[Maren]

How ignorant of you.
JESUS used scripture "out of context" to make His points quite often.
I bet those apples taste mighty fine right about now..

Isn't Jesus basically the author of the Bible, "ghost written" by the Prophets? It is much different when the author proof texts then when some politician does it.

 

[TheBear]

And he uses a porn star in a commercial.

What's wrong with that?

 

[Maren]

What's wrong with that?

Who says that anything is. I actually thought it was a bit strange that he isn't airing the ad anymore, instead "judging" her on her past.