Humans did NOT evolve from Apes...

[Queller]

Dear Queller, You are reading the verses which tell of the formation of the heavenly bodies within the PRESENT Universe. Adam's world did not have a Sun nor will the 3rd Heaven. This is because Jesus provided the light of the first 3 Days/Ages of Creation and He will also provide the light of Heaven for Eternity. Rev 21:23

Are you claiming that the only light in Adam's world was the light of God? That all the plants and animals were nurtured by this light the same way they would be by the sun?

Were there birds in Adam's world? According to your interpretation of the Bible, that doesn't seem possible because the birds fly in the same firmament in which the greater light, the lesser light and the stars were placed. If there was no firmament with a sun, moon, and stars, then there is no firmament in which birds could fly.

Genesis 1:14-20

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

 

[Aman777]

Are you claiming that the only light in Adam's world was the light of God? That all the plants and animals were nurtured by this light the same way they would be by the sun?

Were there birds in Adam's world? According to your interpretation of the Bible, that doesn't seem possible because the birds fly in the same firmament in which the greater light, the lesser light and the stars were placed. If there was no firmament with a sun, moon, and stars, then there is no firmament in which birds could fly.

Genesis 1:14-20

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Dear Queller, All of the light of the 3rd Heaven Rev 21:23 will be provided by the light of Jesus, since He is brighter than the noonday sun and blinded Saul on the road to Damascus at NOON. Act 22:6 Notice that His light was greater than the light of the Sun. This also explains where the light came from to light the day in which the Sun did not set. Jos 10:13

Adam's world also had an open firmament in which birds could fly BUT the verses you list are showing the light of the present heaven, the 2nd heaven, which were not lighted until the FOURTH Day. Gen 1:16 Birds were NOT made until the 5th Day and they were made in the water of Adam's world AND the present world. Gen 1:21

It will help IF you can picture the fact that God made 3 firmaments or boundaries of 3 Universes within our Multiverse. The first and second firmaments had life, which was made from the water by the Trinity Gen 1:21...AND... other life which was made by the Hands of Jesus. Gen 2:19 Most people are unaware that there are TWO creations thus, His (Jesus) kinds and Their (Trinity) kinds which today's Science has falsely assumed that life came Naturally because it came forth from the water.

More proof is shown by the fact that it was 5 months from the time the Flood started until the Ark escaped the first firmament on the face of the waters. Gen 7:20-24. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

I was being cheeky. Also, aren't you just delaying paradise by eating better?

Dear Sarah, As you age you will learn that how you feel depends upon what you eat. I don't want to feel bad while I'm here, as much as I can. I ate everything that didn't eat me first until my mid 50s. So, have a good time while you're young is my suggestion. Enjoy life. God Bless you

 

[TLK Valentine]

Dear Sarah, A good God. I used to eat a lot of bacon and steaks and anything else I wanted. Then I woke up with my chest glued back together after open heart surgery. I have learned to enjoy fruits, vegetables, fish and chicken. Otherwise, I wouldn't be on this Earth. Take care of yourself. Amen? God Bless you

Ah, but surely God will fix this problem in the upcoming Perfect Heaven, thus allowing us to eat all the bacon and steaks we wish, correct?

 

[Aman777]

Ah, but surely God will fix this problem in the upcoming Perfect Heaven, thus allowing us to eat all the bacon and steaks we wish, correct?

Dear Val, Nope. Every living creature will be a vegetarian in Heaven. Nothing with a brain, will feel the pain of death there. Plants don't fell pain and don't die because you eat the fruit. Nothing dies in Heaven. 1Co 15:26 God Bless you

 

[PsychoSarah]

Dear Val, Nope. Every living creature will be a vegetarian in Heaven. Nothing with a brain, will feel the pain of death there. Plants don't fell pain and don't die because you eat the fruit. Nothing dies in Heaven. 1Co 15:26 God Bless you

Heaven will have to have bacon trees then.

 

[crjmurray]

Heaven will have to have bacon trees then.

Run!!!! That's no bacon tree!!!!

It's a hambush!!!!

 

[PsychoSarah]

Run!!!! That's no bacon tree!!!!

It's a hambush!!!!

wordplay

 

[TLK Valentine]

Dear Val, Nope. Every living creature will be a vegetarian in Heaven. Nothing with a brain, will feel the pain of death there. Plants don't fell pain and don't die because you eat the fruit. Nothing dies in Heaven. 1Co 15:26 God Bless you

Plants don't die? Plants aren't alive?

 

[Gracchus]

Dear Val, Nope. Every living creature will be a vegetarian in Heaven. Nothing with a brain, will feel the pain of death there. Plants don't fell pain and don't die because you eat the fruit. Nothing dies in Heaven. 1Co 15:26 God Bless you

Maybe, for you, heaven will be nothing but broccoli. But if I were to look around and see a bunch of Christians, I would know I was in hell.

"In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you." --- John 14:2 KJV

So maybe in heaven we won't be surrounded by twits.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Maybe, for you, heaven will be nothing but broccoli. But if I were to look around and see a bunch of Christians, I would know I was in hell.

"In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you." --- John 14:2 KJV

So maybe in heaven we won't be surrounded by twits.

It's not the size of the mansion, it's the height of the fence...

 

[ViaCrucis]

Dear Val, Nope. Every living creature will be a vegetarian in Heaven. Nothing with a brain, will feel the pain of death there. Plants don't fell pain and don't die because you eat the fruit. Nothing dies in Heaven. 1Co 15:26 God Bless you

If a lion eats straw like an ox then the grass it eats dies.

Also, not all animals have brains.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Aman777]

If a lion eats straw like an ox then the grass it eats dies.

Also, not all animals have brains.

-CryptoLutheran

Dear Via, I cut my grass about every 10 days and it doesn't kill it. In fact, I think it makes it grow faster. Amen? God Bless you

BTW, IF Evols were the animals they wished to be, it's proof positive that some animals don't have useful brains.

 

[crjmurray]

Dear Via, I cut my grass about every 10 days and it doesn't kill it. In fact, I think it makes it grow faster. Amen? God Bless you

BTW, IF Evols were the animals they wished to be, it's proof positive that some animals don't have useful brains.

Nice insult.

 

[Aman777]

Nice insult.

Dear crj, Animals are innocent creatures and don't know the difference between good and evil. It's the difference between Humans and animals. Only God and Humans have this ability to Judge between the two. Gen 3:22 Humans were made with this ability because we are destined to rule or have dominion in our Father's Heaven, in the end. Gen 1:28 God Bless you

 

[TLK Valentine]

Dear crj, Animals are innocent creatures and don't know the difference between good and evil. It's the difference between Humans and animals. Only God and Humans have this ability to Judge between the two. Gen 3:22 Humans were made with this ability because we are destined to rule or have dominion in our Father's Heaven, in the end. Gen 1:28 God Bless you

According to Genesis 2-3, humans have this ability because they ate of a tree which gave this ability -- something they were never meant to do.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Dear Via, I cut my grass about every 10 days and it doesn't kill it. In fact, I think it makes it grow faster. Amen? God Bless you

BTW, IF Evols were the animals they wished to be, it's proof positive that some animals don't have useful brains.

What exactly do you think happens to the blades of grass that you cut?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Aman777]

According to Genesis 2-3, humans have this ability because they ate of a tree which gave this ability -- something they were never meant to do.

Dear Val, God sees the end from the beginning and knew that Adam would disobey BEFORE the foundation of the world. Rev 13:8 Adam (mankind) continues to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil TODAY so long as it remains the present 6th Day. Amen? God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

What exactly do you think happens to the blades of grass that you cut?

-CryptoLutheran

Dear Via, They are recycled and continue to live again. Kinda sounds like Hinduism. Amen?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Dear Via, They are recycled and continue to live again. Kinda sounds like Hinduism. Amen?

No, no amen from me on that.

The atoms are recycled into other living things. blades of grass, chopped off from the grass plant, wither and die. The life of the blades does not continue to live, they die. The new growth has its own, separate life.

Kinda sounds unlike Hinduism. Amen?