Do you wear a tallit in church?

[Frogster]

I feel the anointing on my personal life whenever I am pursuing things that God wants me to pursue. At least, that is how I interpret the signs.

God gives His mark of approval upon a certain action with a slight sense of His presence. And I imagine this same principle works in revivals, where God is teaching people new things and needs to let them know that it is from Him. The same way that Paul preached the Gospel with signs following, but in this case there is a different focus, as the Gospel has been preached for centuries, but we don't always know which version is the right one!


I feel that God did indeed lead me to learn about the Jewish stuff. I probably could have done so without wearing a talit, but it certainly did make it easier. The anointing I was talking about was in the learning, and I think participating and wearing the talit was simply part of that.

When all the Jewish stuff was learned, and the only reason left for me to be there was legalism, the anointing subsided. I felt no anointing on the requirement to obey the OT laws. I do not feel that God would love me more if I tried to keep them. But I do feel that He asked me to learn the depth of spirituality that the Jews have locked up in their cultural customs. And I feel blessed for doing so.

I understand what you're saying, and I respect your right to feel the anointing.

 

[Frogster]

If the tallit were so beneficial in giving power, an anointing, or good for bringing one closer to God or whatever else is given to the garment, why no mention of it in the epistles? Why aren't the Jewish people who wear them Spirit filled today? The way the garment is spoken of, one would think amazing things just happen, to the one who puts on this seemingly mystical garment.

In fact, that tallit teaching can go right into the list of things to reject, that which were gospel additions, given by the club for growth false teachers to the church. Paul said we don’t need Sabbath, feasts, harsh body treatments, or angelology to grow by. In fact prior to the list of things to reject, the list where tallits should go, Paul said about 6-7 times “in Him”, meaning we are complete (fulness) in Him Col 2:10, and don’t need any additions, those in the list in chapter 2.

 

[Tobias]

If the tallit were so beneficial in giving power, an anointing, or good for bringing one closer to God or whatever else is given to the garment, why no mention of it in the epistles? Why aren't the Jewish people who wear them Spirit filled today? The way the garment is spoken of, one would think amazing things just happen, to the one who puts on this seemingly mystical garment.

In fact, that tallit teaching can go right into the list of things to reject, that which were gospel additions, given by the club for growth false teachers to the church. Paul said we don’t need Sabbath, feasts, harsh body treatments, or angelology to grow by. In fact prior to the list of things to reject, the list where tallits should go, Paul said about 6-7 times “in Him”, meaning we are complete (fulness) in Him Col 2:10, and don’t need any additions, those in the list in chapter 2.

The path is narrow. If you over correct from one mistake, you will fall off the path on the other side.


How do you imagine that Christ leads His Church? With the scriptures ONLY, or does He still use the methods mentioned in the scriptures? You know, like the prompting of the Holy Spirit, and the establishment of Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Evangelists, and Teachers?

If we indeed have a True and Living God we follow, then there simply has to be ways for Him to guide us. Ways for Him to speak to us, besides just digging deeper and deeper between the lines of the "magical" Bible to find answers that simply are not there!

 

[Tobias]

Luke 7:31 “To what then shall I compare the men of this generation, and what are they like? 32 They are like children who sit in the market place and call to one another, and they say, ‘We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not weep.’ 33 For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon!’ 34 The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’


God presents Himself in different ways, hoping that people will find something they like and come on aboard.

But some people simply will not play with Him, no matter what He's doing. All they can do is complain about the way He does things, or the people who over do it whenever the Holy Spirit is poured out.

They complain about past revivals. They complain about Brownsville. They complain about the Toronto Blessing. They complain about Lakeland. They complain about gold dust, feathers, and gemstones.

They complain about people making animal noises in church, and people being solemn and reverent if they are wearing a talit. They don't like anything new, and can't stand traditions that are really old.


Sometimes I imagine God getting so frustrated He throws up His hands and asks: "So, what will you allow me to do???"

 

[Frogster]

The path is narrow. If you over correct from one mistake, you will fall off the path on the other side.


How do you imagine that Christ leads His Church? With the scriptures ONLY, or does He still use the methods mentioned in the scriptures? You know, like the prompting of the Holy Spirit, and the establishment of Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Evangelists, and Teachers?

If we indeed have a True and Living God we follow, then there simply has to be ways for Him to guide us. Ways for Him to speak to us, besides just digging deeper and deeper between the lines of the "magical" Bible to find answers that simply are not there!

ummm..i just don't understand what this reply has to do with gaining enlightenement from wearing a jewish garment?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

ummm..i just don't understand what this reply has to do with gaining enlightenement from wearing a jewish garment?

well it's like how people learn by osmosis from books without reading them . . . it's not an exact science . but i always thought it funny when i was behind in my readings in school that my life would mimick the story of the book i wasn't reading . . . every so often .

 

[Frogster]

Luke 7:31 “To what then shall I compare the men of this generation, and what are they like? 32 They are like children who sit in the market place and call to one another, and they say, ‘We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not weep.’ 33 For John the Baptist has come eating no bread and drinking no wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon!’ 34 The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’


God presents Himself in different ways, hoping that people will find something they like and come on aboard.

But some people simply will not play with Him, no matter what He's doing. All they can do is complain about the way He does things, or the people who over do it whenever the Holy Spirit is poured out.

They complain about past revivals. They complain about Brownsville. They complain about the Toronto Blessing. They complain about Lakeland. They complain about gold dust, feathers, and gemstones.

They complain about people making animal noises in church, and people being solemn and reverent if they are wearing a talit. They don't like anything new, and can't stand traditions that are really old.


Sometimes I imagine God getting so frustrated He throws up His hands and asks: "So, what will you allow me to do???"

i will allow (forgive the word allow) God to do what he wants to do, but how do you know what you say he wants to do, is him doing what you want or think him to do?

Maybe he does not want false prophets, glitter dust, feathers, and all of this other hyper stuff, as "allowed" to be what some deem as from him?

lets not allow some to give Him a tarnished reputation.

alrighty now...

 

[Frogster]

well it's like how people learn by osmosis from books without reading them . . . it's not an exact science . but i always thought it funny when i was behind in my readings in school that my life would mimick the story of the book i wasn't reading . . . every so often .

reverse osmosis water filtration is a good way to go.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

reverse osmosis water filtration is a good way to go.

i think i tried that kinda water once . it was okay .

but i bett you're not talking about water . tee hee .

 

[Frogster]

i think i tried that kinda water once . it was okay .

but i bett you're not talking about water . tee hee .

 

[Tobias]

i will allow (forgive the word allow) God to do what he wants to do, but how do you know what you say he wants to do, is him doing what you want or think him to do?

Maybe he does not want false prophets, glitter dust, feathers, and all of this other hyper stuff, as "allowed" to be what some deem as from him?

lets not allow some to give Him a tarnished reputation.

alrighty now...

How do I know?? By the anointing, of course!


At least, that is one way to know that God is leading me down a certain path. Another way is by the words of a prophet, which also happened when I started looking into the Jewish stuff. She told me that she saw (in the Spirit) me wearing a talit. At the time though, all that did was make me a little more suspicious of the whole thing, as I didn't really trust the prophet! lol

God guides my life. He does so through various means, confirming His directions through natural means when everything works out according to plan.


I think it's a rather minor thing to judge the Jewish thing, the feathers, and gold dust as "not of God" when all we are doing is reading about them online. (I don't know what to think of the feathers and gold dust myself!)

But it's a whole 'nother problem when we encounter God and reject Him! When we sense the anointing on what He's doing, but we judge it as "false" because we think we know better. Isn't that what the Pharisees did, judging Jesus as a false prophet because they thought they were the masters of the Law, and knew the scriptures?

 

[Frogster]

How do I know?? By the anointing, of course!


At least, that is one way to know that God is leading me down a certain path. Another way is by the words of a prophet, which also happened when I started looking into the Jewish stuff. She told me that she saw (in the Spirit) me wearing a talit. At the time though, all that did was make me a little more suspicious of the whole thing, as I didn't really trust the prophet! lol

God guides my life. He does so through various means, confirming His directions through natural means when everything works out according to plan.


I think it's a rather minor thing to judge the Jewish thing, the feathers, and gold dust as "not of God" when all we are doing is reading about them online. (I don't know what to think of the feathers and gold dust myself!)

But it's a whole 'nother problem when we encounter God and reject Him! When we sense the anointing on what He's doing, but we judge it as "false" because we think we know better. Isn't that what the Pharisees did, judging Jesus as a false prophet because they thought they were the masters of the Law, and knew the scriptures?

True, the pharisees missed the text, they did not know/see. But what about Paul, do we not go by what he taught, and how he used text, to prove objective facts and doctrine, just because the pharisees were wrong?

Did not Peter refer to Paul's writings as scripture?

Did not Jesus hold up the text, to tell others they were wrong?

lets not chucketh out the texteth, with the bath water.

who could support wearing tallits to gain Spirit, using Paul?

 

[Frogster]

throw away the Bible, after all, the pharisees were wrong!

 

[ToBeBlessed]

i will allow (forgive the word allow) God to do what he wants to do, but how do you know what you say he wants to do, is him doing what you want or think him to do?

Maybe he does not want false prophets, glitter dust, feathers, and all of this other hyper stuff, as "allowed" to be what some deem as from him?

lets not allow some to give Him a tarnished reputation.

alrighty now...

big thumbs up

 

[Frogster]

big thumbs up

a big one to you too sis!

 

[Strong in Him]

People can wear whatever they want, none of my business, but my problem with it, is that those who are infusing Messianic Judaism in our charismatic churches, say that if we do wear it, we will "get the anointing".

So that means that those who don't wear the garment are not getting the ???

This is a works teaching. And personally, sorry, with all due respect, but in my opinion they look silly huddled under it, and it can be a distraction. Go huddle at home.

Needless to say, a little leaven leavens the whole lump, these are also folks who say we should do Shabbat to get peace, yet he alone is our peace according to scripture, we don't need external rituals to get peace.

These same people say God hears us better if we say the OT scriptures in Hebrew. Need I say more?

These are folks who say it is a sin to eat a shrimp scampi, after all, it is against the Mosaic code.

So, where do you stand on all this?

What on earth is a tallit, and why should I be wearing one?

 

[14messenger]

I don't even know what a tallit is.

 

[14messenger]

What on earth is a tallit, and why should I be wearing one?

God loves me and has never explained a tallit to me, so Im sure it isn't damning against believers in God.

 

[Strong in Him]

God loves me and has never explained a tallit to me, so Im sure it isn't damning against believers in God.

If it's something people wear, it will never be as important as what's in the heart.

 

[turned around]

Hi,
I believe a talit is a Hebrew prayer shawl.

Grace to you.