This thread will look at the Seven Trumpets and the Seven Bowls of Wrath. In particular pay close attention to the fourth trumpet to the Kingdom set up and from the Fourth Bowl to the Kingdom set up. you will see that the exact same events are happening in both section.
Lets look at the seven trumpets and the seven bowls
Rev 8:7: The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. 8: And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9: And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10: And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11: And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
First we are told that a third of the trees on the earth are burned and all the green grass then the water is turned to poison and many die from the bad water.
Now
Revelation 16:2: And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. 3: And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea. 4: And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. 5: And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. 6: For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy. 7: And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments. 8: And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. 9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
Here we have the same events happening. While some will quickly point out that differing amounts of the Earth and sea are affected in the two verses, their claim that this proves that they are different events, at different times, does not hold up when we look at the rest of the verses in both sections. We continue with
Rev 8:8: And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9: And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
Now
Rev 16:3: And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
Well here once again the same event Angel acts sea is turned into blood. While some say one say 1/3 of living creatures the other says every
BUT WAIT
it says every living soul
.. fish are not living souls all men in the sea at this third Trumpet /bowl will die and 1/3 of the creatures in the sea.
Onto the Fourth trumpet
Rev 8:12: And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
Now Rev 16 and the Fourth Bowl
8: And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. 9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
Once again the same event. How can these two events be the same you ask?
Sun spots storms cause the sun to put out less visible light but increase harmful radiation by a thousand fold. So while there is less light there is more heat (radiation). If 1/3 of the sun went sunspot storm, the effects on Earth would be absolutely devastating. Men would be scorched by the heat of the Sun. Satellite communications would be lost. Electrical grids would fail all over the world. Depending on the length of the Solar storm electricity could be out for months.
Once again this is a Heavenly view pouring on the sun to make it dark and an earthly view being burnt as a result of the sun spot storms.
On to the Fifth trumpet and Bowl
Rev 9:1: And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit 2: And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; [red]and the sun and the air were darkened[/red] by reason of the smoke of the pit.
..5: And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
Now the fifth bowl
Rev 16:10: And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; a[red]nd his kingdom was full of darkness[/red]; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, 11: And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.
This actually the beginning of Great tribulation the first four are minor tribulation God always willing to stop if Christianity will repent.. The last three are the three woes or the Great tribulation.
Back to the Trumpets.
Revelation 9:13: And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14: Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15: And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. 16: And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
Now look at
Revelation 1612: And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
We see that in both time lines the next event is the massive army coming over the dried up Euphrates river.
Now back to
Revelation 10:7: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Revelation 11:15: And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Gods Kingdom is set up on Earth. Now
Revelation 16: 17: And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Once again God's Kingdom set up on Earth
Revelation 7 through 11 and Revelation 14 through 16 describe the same main events in the same order but tell the events from different perspectives. While Revelation 7-11 speaks from a heavenly level. Revelation 13-16 speaks on an earthly level.
So while Rev 9:10 talks of how the Fallen Angel known as the Destroyer is released on the Earth and torments men five months with war and with grievous pain that they should long for death.
Revelation 16 tells us what physical events actually happen to the people alive at this time of the plagues released on a unrepentant world..
This is the truth of this matter.
