You are guessing correctly, and free will is not a manufacturing flaw. Now --- if God would have embedded Murphy's Law into His Creation, then you might have a point, but Murphy's Law isn't fueled by free will, and God didn't embed it into His creation.
You are guessing correctly, and free will is not a manufacturing flaw. Now --- if God would have embedded Murphy's Law into His Creation, then you might have a point, but Murphy's Law isn't fueled by free will, and God didn't embed it into His creation.
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It's not my fault that your analogies are, without exception, simplified to a point where they lose their relevance to the issue at hand.Unless you don't have anything else to add, I'll just "/thread" out.
I'll wait a few more posts though and see if anyone really has anything to say.
I've already covered both of those points in this thread --- but once again:
- If he was ordered not to go down Interstate 5, and he does anyway, it's my fault?
- He could have wrecked it because he was avoiding hitting someone on the highway.
AHhhhhh.. but that scientist is still tarnished by what the other bad scientists did, just as we are all tarnished by Piltdown Man and Pluto (the evil non-planet).
Oh, but Lucifer and Adam were a part of that Creation discussed in Genesis 1, AVET. So your analogy fails.
Thanks for clarifying. In other words, U.S. scientists didn't fall for it --- and I'm thankful.
I've already covered both of those points in this thread --- but once again:
- If he was ordered not to go down Interstate 5, and he does anyway, it's my fault?
- He could have wrecked it because he was avoiding hitting someone on the highway.
I've already backed that point up with Scripture --- since He declared everything He had made "very good" --- and later admits that Lucifer was "perfect".Notice in the Ezekiel passage how "wast perfect" later became imperfect?
God did not created anything imperfect in Genesis 1, and cannot be held responsible for the Fall or its byproducts.
We've been over this Leviticus 14 "cure" before, haven't we?
Precisely --- this is a post-cure ritual that one went through after the fact.Not that I have seen. However when I read it I don't see the birds as being a cure. The way it reads to me is that once someone IS cured, this is the procedure to be followed.
One has to wonder why god simply didn't make the tree a few feet taller, with less branches at the reach of a human hand...ps: perfect creations don't make mistakes. God made man fallible from the beginning. he KNEW the apple would be eaten. In fact thats why he placed it in the garden. Man was framed for the car accident (and the fall). The cars break line had been cut and the driver drugged, and the cop (the angel who banished Adam and Eve) was had been bribed by god.
So yes, it is gods fault. well fault is the wrong word. It was gods intention.
Belk, this is more for you than AV, but...Precisely --- this is a post-cure ritual that one went through after the fact.
(Emphasis mine, obviously.) The post-cleansing offering instructions start in verse 10. Before that it sounds a whole lot like a cleansing ritual. Now, it could be that the KJ translation makes it sounds that way, but it's not really supposed to... oh, wait, no, that's not allowed in AVland.The Bible said:4Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop: 5And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water:
6As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water:
7And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.
8And he that is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes, and shave off all his hair, and wash himself in water, that he may be clean: and after that he shall come into the camp, and shall tarry abroad out of his tent seven days.
9But it shall be on the seventh day, that he shall shave all his hair off his head and his beard and his eyebrows, even all his hair he shall shave off: and he shall wash his clothes, also he shall wash his flesh in water, and he shall be clean.
10And on the eighth day he shall
One has to wonder why god simply didn't make the tree a few feet taller, with less branches at the reach of a human hand...
Nice quote, but you missed off the authorative beginning:Belk, this is more for you than AV, but...
(Emphasis mine, obviously.) The post-cleansing offering instructions start in verse 10. Before that it sounds a whole lot like a cleansing ritual. Now, it could be that the KJ translation makes it sounds that way, but it's not really supposed to... oh, wait, no, that's not allowed in AVland.
God said:Leviticus 14
Cleansing From Infectious Skin Diseases
1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "These are the regulations for the diseased person at the time of his ceremonial cleansing, when he is brought to the priest:
Belk, this is more for you than AV, but...
(Emphasis mine, obviously.) The post-cleansing offering instructions start in verse 10. Before that it sounds a whole lot like a cleansing ritual. Now, it could be that the KJ translation makes it sounds that way, but it's not really supposed to... oh, wait, no, that's not allowed in AVland.
Interesting, thanks. Does anyone have a link where it is established cleansing = cure? I did a Google search, but the only thing I came up with was the skeptics annotated bible which simply has the exact same argument and christian response as here.