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Yu-Gi-Oh

deborahp

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I am the Director of a Christian after-school day care center and we have students who are bringing these cards to school. We have rules about trading them for many reasons, not necessarily religeous, but I know nothing about them and want to know if they are a danger to young minds as doors or stepping stones into the occult?
 

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Nope. The card game is based on a fantasy story of an ancient Egyptian pharaoh who, long ago, banished evil sorcerers and their magical "shadow" games played with real monsters from the world with the sevel Millennium Items.

It continues immediately thousands of years later when a youth named Yugi manages to solve the Millennium puzzle, which holds the soul of the pharaoh when the threat of evil returns. Together, they and their friends fight back the evil forces.

The comic strip (called "manga") and the cartoon (called "anime") teach valuable lessons in friendship, forgiveness, and warn against revenge, hate, anger, and meddling in magic and things beyond comprehension. In fact, Yugi and his friends make peace with many of their former enemies, some of them rather bloodthirsty and vicious, and turn them back to goodness and allies to help Yugi and the pharaoh's spirit in saving the world. Self-sacrifice is performed many times in order to save the life of another (and what isn't more Christian than that?), and it teaches than anyone who truly wishes to repent of their evil ways can be welcomed back (reconciliation with God anyone?).

True, there is "magic" (fantasy stuff; nothing real or anything like Wicca or other Neopagan) involved, but it is mainly the reason why evil returned. The pharaoh's spirit, although sharing the same body as Yugi, is benevolent and works together with Yugi. In a way, this is very much like the dual Nature of Jesus; equally Man and equally Divine, working together without any domination from any side.

Although it has some darker themes, the main theme is to end the magic that caused the evil in the first place. Magic is nevery used by the side of good; only through evil means, with a few exceptions. The valuable lessons, as explained earlier, could be used to teach kids how to overcome obsticles with their peers, and the moments of self-sacrifice and converting the once-enemies to good show true Christian values.

As such, I see nothing wrong with Yu-Gi-Oh!.
 
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My kids are very into Yu-Gi-Oh. I don't see anything wrong as long as they remember it is just make believe. At least it has yet to become as all pervasive as Pokemon, and the cartoon story lines are better.
One nice thing about the card game--it does get kids in the habit of thinking ahead and seeing the direct consequences of quick and sometimes stupid, actions.

Celtie
 
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Bakura's an interesting case because it honestly isn't his fault. The real Bakura is actually one of Yugi's allies and friends. The spirit of the Ring does possess him, but the manga/anime shows him being exercised out many times with the power of friendship and goodness. Oddly enough, sometimes even the spirit of the Ring allies temporarily with Yugi and the spirit of the Pharaoh in order to advance a plan against other evil characters to get closer to achieving his ultimate goal. It shows a classic Biblical example about how the Devil will do whatever is needed to win, but eventually looses. And Bakura is sometimes able to stop the spirit of the Ring a few times with the help of his friends.

A complex issue, but Bakura is a good tool to show how weak evil is and how we must master our sinful side.
 
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Yugioh is an anime based of the Egyptian religion, which includes the teaching of sacrificing, magic and soul possesion...ect. I would suggest that you tell parents of any child who likes yugioh to not buy the tapes or dvd's such as the first season. It has graphic sexual content and violence, yugioh was not created in the first place for children. The card game is based off of the card game called 'Magic', but less complicated so a child could understand it.
 
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roseheartwind said:
Yugioh is an anime based of the Egyptian religion, which includes the teaching of sacrificing, magic and soul possesion...ect. I would suggest that you tell parents of any child who likes yugioh to not buy the tapes or dvd's such as the first season. It has graphic sexual content and violence, yugioh was not created in the first place for children. The card game is based off of the card game called 'Magic', but less complicated so a child could understand it.

Oh please. I know quite a bit about Kemetic religion, and Yu-Gi-Oh! isn't anything like it. Either get your facts in order or go to the FAQ, read rule #2, and I'll leave it at that before I myself do something I'll later regret.

Mods! We got cleanup on Isle 3! :p
 
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remember when Seto was before the stone atler of the blue eyes white dragon?? and he was holding a dead girl?? well in the japanese version u will see Seto kill the girl in an offering to the blue eyes white dragon. In the flash backs in the times in Egypt there is magic serimonies (if u say that Yugioh is not based off Egyptian religion i will not disagree with u on that due to the fact that i do not know much about it) Watch or read the first seaon of Yugioh, YTV starts off in the second season.
 
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1. That still has nothing to do with Kemetic religion.
2. Whoopie-doo about "magic." They're using a fantasy-stylized "magic" to destinguish it from anything done today by today's Neopagans. I don't see any Kemetic Pagan today sacrificing women to stone tabels of blue-eyes white dragons, dark magicians, or anything of the like.
3. I know of the episode in question, and you've missed the entire point about the "sacrifice." Try going back and watching it and the previous episodes before it. She's giving herself up; Seto isn't taking her life. The same argument has been giving to the ancient Celts because of their "triple-deaths;" these folks are martyrs, not sacrifices.

You need to learn the subtle differences.
 
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lol, I never liked Yu-Gi-Oh, i'm a south Indian livning in north america for a while, watching a japanese show about ancient egypt, its too foreign for me ^ _ ^, but I have seen it, and from what I know about Wiccans and stuff, yugioh is a little involved in it, but its not all out like D&D, I personally choose not to watch it for this reason but its okay if you do
 
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PaladinValer said:
Then you don't know much about Wicca or Dungeons and Dragons...

umm.. I do know a little bit about Wicca, I know D&D is involved in it but i'm not that interested in the subject, please don't flame me :bow: , I was just stating my point
 
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No, Dungeons and Dragons is far from it. If you know of D&D, I'm certain you can tell us how you win at it, what a paladin is, whether evil is a common alignment of the player characters, and whether DMs allow players to roleplay a Christian cleric.

D&D started out as a paper and pen RPG of Tolkien's Middle-earth, complete with the race of "hobbit." Since the Tolkien estate didn't like this, the D&D had to kill off that idea and went on its own. There's nothing religious about it, although some people play it religiously. It doesn't teach people how to cast real spells, force demon-worship, or anything rediculous folks like Jack T. Chick make it out to be.
 
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Most of the posts I have read deal with the values expressed in the show, and not the card game itself.

I agree that there are good values in the TV show, but I don't think that is relevant to the OP's question. I think that the card game does have some merits though. There are elements of strategy involved and encourages players to strategize and think ahead.

However, in the original post, I get the impression that the poster is questioning how the card game may affect their faith.

My response to this is: it depends. It depends on how developed the children are spritiually and intelectually. It depends on what beliefs their parents have instilled in them. If a child believes all of the extra "flavor" text on some of the cards and thinks it is real, then the card game could be harmful to them spiritually.

I believe the OP said he was in charge of younger children (pre-Jr. high). This means that the children's parents would probably have to be the ones purchasing the cards. Meaning, the parents of the children who brought the cards must approve. The problem is, the parents of other children may not approve.

It's probably better not to allow them to play the game while their at a Church function (at least for younger children). When they get to Jr. High and High School... it's hader for me to say.
 
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