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Thanks for responding. Regarding your two seperate claims (the physical forms being 6,000 years old and empty space being eternal) how do you know this?Hi philadiddle,
For me that would depend on what you mean by 'universe'. All the physical forms contained within the expanse of empty space were created about 6,000 years ago. The actual empty void of nothing that surrounds all the physical forms of the universe probably existed forever.
God bless you.
In Christ, Ted
I've asked this before but it's been quite a while.
YECs, do you think the universe had a beginning? Or has it always been here? How do you know?
Yes! to the first question and for the second, Genesis 1:1 and Romans 1:18-22.
Grace and peace,
Mark
In the beginning there was only one thing - God (Gen 1:1)
OK, I agree with that. Now, if you were discussing this with a non-believer is there any scientific reason you could give him to think the universe had a beginning? ThanksI know the physical forms were created about 6,000 years ago because the Scriptures tell me so.
OK, I agree with that. Now, if you were discussing this with a non-believer is there any scientific reason you could give him to think the universe had a beginning? Thanks
So you agree with the evidence for the big bang?Ever hear of the Big Bang? Atheistic materialists are locked into the universe being all their is and that is just one of the patented absurdities of their departure from reality.
So you agree with the evidence for the big bang?
Could you please clarify your view for me? How old do you think the universe is and how old do you think the earth is?I think the evidence is clear, God spoke and *BANG* there it was. BTW, the could have been, and probably was, a considerable amount of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. Do you have a point?
Could you please clarify your view for me? How old do you think the universe is and how old do you think the earth is?
Thanks
This thread was intended for those who think the universe is less than 10,000 years old. Since you don't think that, I don't really have a point to make to you.It's well into the billions as far as I can tell and the scientific consensus is that it most certainly did have a beginning, a very sudden one. The actual sphere is only slightly younger then the rest of the universe but less then 10,000 years ago was covered in water and utter darkness, void and without form. Biological life was created exactly as described in Genesis in a matter of days and on the days of creation it didn't take all day to do it.
Don't get me wrong, I am under to compulsion of any kind to accept an old earth or cosmology. I just realize that the Scriptures are silent on that particular point, both as canon and as understood literally from the narratives as literature.
Hope that helps to clarify, feel free to ask any follow up questions that occur to you.
Grace and peace,
Mark
This thread was intended for those who think the universe is less than 10,000 years old. Since you don't think that, I don't really have a point to make to you.
I've asked this before but it's been quite a while.
YECs, do you think the universe had a beginning? Or has it always been here? How do you know?
So am I correct to think that you accept the big bang theory and that the universe is about 13-14 billion years old?The almost universal scientific consensus is that matter, space, and time began to exist at the same time.
So am I correct to think that you accept the big bang theory and that the universe is about 13-14 billion years old?
edit - I see this is your first post. Welcome.
What makes you think that? Do you have examples of this evidence that apparently every reputable scientist on Earth has missed for the last 200 years?As far as the age I do not rule out an old universe but as a Christian I still look for evidence of a young earth, and there is quite a bit.
However I regard the age of the earth in the bible as it's weakest claim but I have definately not ruled it out. If by some chance the bible turned out to be correct and most of the scientific community wrong it certainly wouldn't be the first time.
Why would the initial conditions have to be knowable for us to know that the universe took 13.5 billion years to get to where it is now?I really don't have an opinion on the Big Bang (I don't think at this time the initial conditions are knowable).
Like what? Please name your best one.As far as the age I do not rule out an old universe but as a Christian I still look for evidence of a young earth, and there is quite a bit.
I would also like an example of when the bible was right about science and scientists were wrong.However I regard the age of the earth in the bible as it's weakest claim but I have definately not ruled it out. If by some chance the bible turned out to be correct and most of the scientific community wrong it certainly wouldn't be the first time.
Why would the initial conditions have to be knowable for us to know that the universe took 13.5 billion years to get to where it is now?
Like what? Please name your best one.
I would also like an example of when the bible was right about science and scientists were wrong.
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