YEC and Fossil Fuels

[CACTUSJACKmankin]

What do YECers think fossil fuels like coal and oil are and how they formed? do you think it's ancient lifeforms, just not as ancient? how did the pressure and heat process them into fossil fuels in such a short time?

 

[Tammisto]

Magic man dun it, obviously.

 

[AV1611VET]

What do YECers think fossil fuels like coal and oil are and how they formed? do you think it's ancient lifeforms, just not as ancient? how did the pressure and heat process them into fossil fuels in such a short time?

I'm not a YEC, but I'll give my 2¢ anyway.

This earth at one time was run by a race of superhumans, who, I'm sure, built up quite an infrastructure --- replete with advanced irrigation and farming.

They could have used a collection-and-storage method for fossils that configured them in the earth like they are today - (with exceptions, like the Flood and the Split, which would have moved them around some).

In addition, and as far as oil deposits is concerned, God could have put all that oil where it is for future use, like the Millennial Kingdom - (as opposed to oil "forming there" over a long period of time).

 

[ragarth]

There's a group of thought that states that oil is not the result of fossils being converted over time, but rather is a replenished natural resource that springs forth from deep in the earth. It's still touted today as a defense against the peak oil prediction.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59991

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin

 

[BananaSlug]

Creationists still cannot account for the fact that if all of the coal was laid down during the flood, why there are different types of coal based on their age. Lignite, bituminous, anthracite.

I'm seriously thinking about righting a fantasy novel inspired by the ramblings of dad and AV. I'd make a killing. Get Benicio del Toro to make the movie. Awesome.

 

[juvenissun]

What do YECers think fossil fuels like coal and oil are and how they formed? do you think it's ancient lifeforms, just not as ancient? how did the pressure and heat process them into fossil fuels in such a short time?

Quick burial.

 

[Danyc]

This earth at one time was run by a race of superhumans, who, I'm sure, built up quite an infrastructure --- replete with advanced irrigation and farming.

They could have used a collection-and-storage method for fossils that configured them in the earth like they are today - (with exceptions, like the Flood and the Split, which would have moved them around some).

...what

 

[BananaSlug]

See what I mean? Creationism Fantasy > Lord of the Rings.

 

[AV1611VET]

...what

According to the Bible, angels came here and married women and created a race of superhumans (giants and "men of reknown") on the earth.

Now, picture this --- do you think these angels were out there huffing and puffing behind a yoke of oxen trying to get a good crop yield in for the year?

Do you think they wasted their time tending sheep and cattle?

Do you honestly think a man, who could lift the Rock of Gibraltar up with one [sore] arm, was out there with a bow and arrow, hoping to bag a deer that comes within range?

On second thought --- nevermind --- anything past Genesis 1 is out of you guys' league.

 

[BananaSlug]

Ever read the Book of Enoch? It goes into detail about the events before the flood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch

While this book today is non-canonical in most Christian Churches, it was explicitly quoted[2]:8 in the New Testament (Letter of Jude 1:14-15) and by many of the early Church Fathers. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church to this day regards it to be canonical.

The Book of Enoch describes the fall of the Watchers, the angels who fathered the Nephilim. The fallen angels went to Enoch to intercede on their behalf with God after he declared to them their doom. The remainder of the book describes Enoch's visit to Heaven in the form of a vision, and his revelations.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I'm not a YEC, but I'll give my 2¢ anyway.

This earth at one time was run by a race of superhumans, who, I'm sure, built up quite an infrastructure --- replete with advanced irrigation and farming.

I'm hoping this is another one of your "let me pretend to believe the most outrageous blather I can come up with to trick the scientists," statements.

They could have used a collection-and-storage method for fossils that configured them in the earth like they are today - (with exceptions, like the Flood and the Split, which would have moved them around some).

Still hoping you're yanking our chains.

In addition, and as far as oil deposits is concerned, God could have put all that oil where it is for future use, like the Millennial Kingdom - (as opposed to oil "forming there" over a long period of time).

The Millenial Kingdom will be oil powered? Since when did miracles run on petroleum?


It's cool, AV -- you can tell us you're just kidding now.

 

[Nathan Poe]

According to the Bible, angels came here and married women and created a race of superhumans (giants and "men of reknown") on the earth.

Now, picture this --- do you think these angels were out there huffing and puffing behind a yoke of oxen trying to get a good crop yield in for the year?

Do you think they wasted their time tending sheep and cattle?

Do you honestly think a man, who could lift the Rock of Gibraltar up with one [sore] arm, was out there with a bow and arrow, hoping to bag a deer that comes within range?

On second thought --- nevermind --- anything past Genesis 1 is out of you guys' league.

Do people honestly take that Biblical blather at face value?

On second thought -- nevermind -- anything past literalism is out of your league.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ever read the Book of Enoch? It goes into detail about the events before the flood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch

And that has what to do with the OP?

 

[DaveISBG]

What do YECers think fossil fuels like coal and oil are and how they formed? do you think it's ancient lifeforms, just not as ancient? how did the pressure and heat process them into fossil fuels in such a short time?

Changing World Technologies gets it done in less than three hours and ends up with purer products.

$31 million factory in Carthage, Mo. has begun taking in truckloads of bones, feathers, blood and guts from a nearby Butterball turkey-processing plant. The unique garbage-to-oil facility is a joint venture between Changing World and Omaha-based ConAgra foods.

 

[RobertByers]

What do YECers think fossil fuels like coal and oil are and how they formed? do you think it's ancient lifeforms, just not as ancient? how did the pressure and heat process them into fossil fuels in such a short time?

Its exactly what it is.
fossils means dead creatures remains turned into coal/oil depending on a recipe.
This happened during the biblical flood or similiar processes after the flood.
it was from the collecting and pressurizing, with heat involved, of this and bingo there we are.
its not from unlikely ideas of slow accumulation and slow pressure/heat over time.
No where on earth is this process happening to day from start to finish. Save some peat swamps where in a primitive way it mimics the fast ways of moving water and its collecting abilities.
Oil/coal makes a good case for creationism.

 

[Hespera]

Its exactly what it is.
fossils means dead creatures remains turned into coal/oil depending on a recipe.
This happened during the biblical flood or similiar processes after the flood.
it was from the collecting and pressurizing, with heat involved, of this and bingo there we are.
its not from unlikely ideas of slow accumulation and slow pressure/heat over time.
No where on earth is this process happening to day from start to finish. Save some peat swamps where in a primitive way it mimics the fast ways of moving water and its collecting abilities.
Oil/coal makes a good case for creationism.

Anything makes a good case for creationism if you know absolutely nothing about it and want to pretend that it does.

 

[Athrond]

On second thought --- nevermind --- anything past Genesis 1 is out of you guys' league.

Nice method you have for shutting out critisism of your interpretation of the bible AV

 

[CACTUSJACKmankin]

Quick burial.

that's it? what about the heat and the pressure and the TIME required to break that organic matter into simpler hydrocarbons?

 

[juvenissun]

that's it? what about the heat and the pressure and the TIME required to break that organic matter into simpler hydrocarbons?

All that come along with the burial. The process is called burial metamorphism. Oil, gas and coal are made in the first half of it.

Yeah, that is it. YEC theories are able to take care of it.

 

[BananaSlug]

And that has what to do with the OP?

I was referencing your post. (Sorry about the OT point but I think it should be made). The Book of Enoch describes what the world is like before the Great Flood. It mentions the Nephilim and what they did. In Jude, a specific verse from this book is mentioned. Though now it is not part of the "modern canonized" Bible, it was an important book in ancient times that was considered to be part of the Bible. So if you want to see how your dribble compares to what "really" happened, read the Book of Enoch.