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Yay for John Kerry!

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6700571/site/newsweek/

John Kerry has called for the democratic party to accepting of pro-life Democrats, and the new Minority speaker for the Senate is pro-life. :clap: That would be so cool if that happened. The democrats are -definately- my chosen party if it weren't for the pro-choice. But they seem to be moving towards accepting pro-lifers. Yay!
 

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Just kidding... Sort of... ;)

God Bless,

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Ya I don't think Kerry is waffling here. I think he was pushed into a pro-choice position that he didn't want to be in. And now that he's not running he's pushing for change. There are several calling for more moderate moral views in the Democratic party. And as the article pointed out, the minority leader is pro-life - that's a huge step.
 
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And also, there is no reason that the Democratic party can't open up to pro-lifers and have both pro-life and pro-choice candidates, just like the Republicans. Obviously there was some point when the Republican party moved to start accepting pro-choicers and I'm sure there were some who said "won't happen" but it did and while the official party stance is pro-life there are plenty of pro-choicers who get elected. No reason that the democratic party can't have a pro-choice platform and elect pro-lifers.
 
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I shouldn't say this.. but I doubt his intentions are good.
I think this is pure politics. Kerry has burned the democratic party by his ultra-liberal stand, and he is now trying to make it right by pretending that he has a heart for unborn babies - to appear as though he can restore 'moderation' to the party. Democrats know folks are running away from their party because its been hickajed by the culture of death.
I could go on, but I know I shouldn't...
 
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QuagDabPeg said:
Say what you want about him, do you object to his purshing the pro-life envelope?

Is there a reason I should care? I'm not trying to be mean. Honestly, does the world not move without him? I wish Catholics would possibly consider an alternative to either of these two parties. Waiting as we are that one day they will finally choose to adapt Catholic order.

The Democrats will always be the party of the "we believe in, but can't push our beliefs" and the Republicans of "If you work hard for someone else, we might let you have a crumb off the table". Both are wishy washy. Both say one thing and do another. Both represent a lack of morals, an agenda that panders to whatever comes along, and both contend they are the secular solution with no apparent plan specified. As long as laws are defined by relativism, all first world countries will cave in.
 
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PeterPaul said:
Is there a reason I should care? I'm not trying to be mean. Honestly, does the world not move without him? I wish Catholics would possibly consider an alternative to either of these two parties. Waiting as we are that one day they will finally choose to adapt Catholic order.

The Democrats will always be the party of the "we believe in, but can't push our beliefs" and the Republicans of "If you work hard for someone else, we might let you have a crumb off the table". Both are wishy washy. Both say one thing and do another. Both represent a lack of morals, an agenda that panders to whatever comes along, and both contend they are the secular solution with no apparent plan specified. As long as laws are defined by relativism, all first world countries will cave in.
I agree with PeterPaul; I don't normally like to talk politics, but I was watching the news about a month ago and Deepak Chopra was asked to comment on the US politics, and I thought he had a very good point. He mentioned that today's leaders (and I'm not talking about the US exclusively, but all countries) are not true leaders--they're far more interested in what the public opinion polls say, and will do whatever they can in reaction to those polls.

When I read about politics, I'm always reminded of what Wayne Teasdale writes in his book, "A Monk in the World": he says, "be in the world, but not OF this world".
 
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I shouldn't say this.. but I doubt his intentions are good.
I think this is pure politics. Kerry has burned the democratic party by his ultra-liberal stand, and he is now trying to make it right by pretending that he has a heart for unborn babies - to appear as though he can restore 'moderation' to the party. Democrats know folks are running away from their party because its been hickajed by the culture of death.
I could go on, but I know I shouldn't...

What he said.

Say what you want about him, do you object to his purshing the pro-life envelope?


I object to him furthering his career by riding on the backs of unborn children. He could have done the decent thing when he had the chance to make a difference.

God bless,

Neal
 
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Not to be a wet blanket but too bad their pro life doesn’t really mean pro life. I saw it on Fox, what the new pro life democrat is up to these days.

Their pro life means that they are still for abortion on demand and all that entails, they actually think keeping it legal is pro life because it reduces risk to the mother by providing a “safe” abortion, but what they are doing is pushing for the rare part in their “let’s keep abortion legal safe and rare” campaign.

Those crazy democrats crack me up thinking they can fool us in thinking they have gone pro life.
 
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geocajun said:
I shouldn't say this.. but I doubt his intentions are good.
I think this is pure politics. Kerry has burned the democratic party by his ultra-liberal stand, and he is now trying to make it right by pretending that he has a heart for unborn babies - to appear as though he can restore 'moderation' to the party. Democrats know folks are running away from their party because its been hickajed by the culture of death.
I could go on, but I know I shouldn't...
I agree. He’s just going which way the wind is blowing.
 
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Clinton's stance of "Safe, legal, and rare" isnt exactly what I believe, but it was much better than a lot of current opinions. I do think it should be banned, but in absense of a ban we should work to make them as rar as possible by rooting out the reasons people have them.
 
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Clinton and Gore were both much more pro-life before they were in the limelight, and both were told they would have to tone that down to be leaders of the Democratic party.

I've heard of Kerry waffling on just about everything, but I've never heard him accused of having been pro-life at any point in his life before now. So, if he's genuine about it, more power to him. If not (which I'm inclined to believe) it's a sad attempt to pander to Middle America, whom the DNC lost several years ago and failed to notice until this November, apparently.
 
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