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Stripling_Warrior said:
A website run by Native Americans claims to have translated ancient records written by the descendants of Hagoth. Has anyone else heard of this?
Yes. The writings were found in the basement of the LDS church along with lots of other "lost" writings.

I read parts of it, but they did not impress me.
 
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Jenda said:
Yes. The writings were found in the basement of the LDS church along with lots of other "lost" writings.

I read parts of it, but they did not impress me.

So you do not believe them to be true? And if not, what are your reasons?
 
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Stripling_Warrior said:
So you do not believe them to be true? And if not, what are your reasons?
I did not say that. I stated that they did not reach out and grab me.

I would have to do a lot of studying on them to see if I believe them to be true, and right now, I prefer to focus on the Bible and the BoM.
 
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Jenda said:
I did not say that. I stated that they did not reach out and grab me.

I would have to do a lot of studying on them to see if I believe them to be true, and right now, I prefer to focus on the Bible and the BoM.

Did you also hear about the guy who says Joseph Smith appeared to him and delivered to him the remaining Gold Plates so he could translate them?
 
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Stripling Warrior,

These records of "hagoth" look like they were written by the same guy who wrote the "Book of Lemuel". hahahahaha

Besides, this little bit from the summary:

Book of Hagmeni

Son of Hagoth...discovers ancient tombs and records of the Jaredites...Ordained Prophet and High Priest by Nephi...Speaks with Christ in the temple...Samuel the Lamanite spends the winter with the Nemenhah in the land of Mentinah.


That contradicts what Alma 63:8 says: "And it came to pass that they were never heard of more."

How could Samuel the Lamanite contact them, or how could Nephi ordain Hagmeni if they didn't know what happend to them?
 
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Stripling_Warrior said:
Did you also hear about the guy who says Joseph Smith appeared to him and delivered to him the remaining Gold Plates so he could translate them?
I haven't heard that story, but you might have heard it wrong.

There is a guy who is/was a member of my church who has claimed to have translated the sealed portion of the plates. The rub is that he did not have the plates, but instead got the writings off the back of a cicada bug.

His name is Ron Livingston, but goes by GPA. He has a small cult outside of Lamoni, Iowa.

(where was that smilie that is shaking it's head in pity again?)
 
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Alma referred to the Nephites who left with Hagoth originally. This does not mean that the future generations did not reopen contact with their brethren to the south.

I also did not say this is a true record, although it will be interesting to read it.
 
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This guy was a security guard for the LDS church. His website is sealedportion.com
 
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Stripling_Warrior said:
This guy was a security guard for the LDS church. His website is sealedportion.com
Oh, good. The sealed portion has been translated twice. That should be interesting.
 
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Alma referred to the Nephites who left with Hagoth originally. This does not mean that the future generations did not reopen contact with their brethren to the south.

Don't you think that Mormon would have mentioned that in editing the record?
 
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Jason the Evangelist said:
Don't you think that Mormon would have mentioned that in editing the record?

Maybe he did and included it in another record. Maybe he thought it was not important. Maybe Moroni when he abridged the record was unaware of any further contact with his brethren to the north.
 
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Stripling_Warrior said:
You cannot overlook the scrolls that were supposedly written by Mahonri Moriancumer that have been "translated".
Which scrolls were those? I have never heard that the brother of Jared wrote any scrolls. Is there a reference to them in the BoM?
 
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Stripling_Warrior said:
Maybe he did and included it in another record. Maybe he thought it was not important. Maybe Moroni when he abridged the record was unaware of any further contact with his brethren to the north.


Methinks that unless the stripping warrior isn't excommunicated soon, that he is shooting for a job writing for FARMS.



Chris <><
 
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Jenda said:
Which scrolls were those? I have never heard that the brother of Jared wrote any scrolls. Is there a reference to them in the BoM?

No, there was no mention of scrolls, just the records made mention of that have been sealed.
 
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christopher123 said:
Methinks that unless the stripping warrior isn't excommunicated soon, that he is shooting for a job writing for FARMS.



Chris <><

Why would I be ex-communicated? Also, I'd gladly write for FARMS, that would be a very interesting job.

The MAYBES I stated are just personal opinions, nothing more.
 
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Stripling_Warrior said:
Why would I be ex-communicated?

Write a letter to the First Presidency letting them know of your interest and promotion of the ideas that the sealed portions have been translated, that Smith has appeared to someone, and that the brother of Jared has been writing and is now translated. Make sure how you tell them you have been promoting this publicly.


Stripling_Warrior said:
The MAYBES I stated....... .

As stated, you would be a natural for FARMS.



Chris <><
 
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I'm not promoting those as the truth, but they do exist. (I would caution any member of the LDS faith before they read any of these.) That would not get me ex-communicated.
 
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Hi Stripling Warrior,

The prophet Mike Rigby has translated Moroni's copy of Jared's brother's record, along with lots of other exciting records. http://absalom.com/mormon/rigby/

And the sealed portion has been translated more than twice. There's also James Strang's "books of the Law" and Christopher Warren's "Olive Branch."

Oh, did I mention the 116 pages that have been translated, and the Second book of commandments?

Sounds like latter-day craziness to me.
 
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