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The users who would prefer that 5 point Calvinism were true seem very defensive and cagey about the whole exercise. I’d like to invite them to try anew and attempt to share some positive reasons to prefer that 5 point Calvinism were true.
I don’t see any positive reasons in Calvinism.
Calvinists in the thread are confirming that by jumping on things like my etiquette, “nobody understands Calvinism,” what (they think) scripture says and a whole host of other red herrings to avoid the point of the topic. Would they prefer it and why, that’s the topic question.
Calvinist writers have compared the theology to a bitter pill or even the stages of grief, seems that those descriptions weren’t far off from the truth of what people are going through trying to find just one reason to prefer it.
I imagine some Calvinists might say that salvation is 100% all God and thereby it glorifies Him.
No. There are "pure" Calvinists and they don't tend to act more reckless.
So your theory has no data to back it.
Even Jesus didn't act (much) more reckless than others.
You haven't sold me on how post#163 will benefit me.
What are the major benefits to me?
Promoting oneself is up to the propogandist.Aren't those decisions something you need to take responsibility for?
It don't matter who you think is what. If you have no facts regarding reckless behavior then you have no thesis to write.Jesus wasn't a Calvanist, neither a "pure" nor an "unpure" one. You do know that don't you?
Yes I can. You loose in the prophesy/clairvoyance departments.Benefit: To think straight Hmm shows that no one truly acts as if everything in life is pre-determined. Otherwise, they could afford to act recklessly - after all, the result was going to happen anyway. Again, why look both ways before crossing the street? Whether you are hit by a car was decided long ago.
You cannot believe that everything is pre-determined and still believe that your conscious decisions have some bearing on what happens to you.
So for everyone who isn’t a believer in five point Calvinism, would you prefer it if five point Calvinism were true?
A simple yes or no answer to start your response would be great, then the rationale behind why you have picked either yes or no.
I wouldn't have that much of a problem being a 4-pointer. Even I'm more of a 1-pointer now.
“Pure” Calvinists, if there’s
What 1 point still has appeal for you? In my experience perseverance of the saints gets the most traction with non Calvinists.
Today at 5:46 PMThat sounds rehearsed. Where did you get it from?
I would say Total depravity, but I don't fully hold the same view of that either. So maybe 0,5-pointer.I acknowledge the unwillingness of man to know God (The biblical God that is).
So for everyone who isn’t a believer in five point Calvinism, would you prefer it if five point Calvinism were true?
A simple yes or no answer to start your response would be great, then the rationale behind why you have picked either yes or no.
Well, I'm not completely Satan, yet.But we're not Jesus.
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