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Hi all...hope people are having a peaceful day OCD wise. Last night during the night it came to me as if it was being told me in my mind that I was a worthless rebrobate. I'm not even sure what a rebrobate is but I think it's someone who's willfully sinned and won't repent. I daren't dismiss this as not being from God...if it is He must really despise me.

Going downhill again...maybe I should just accept the better times as denial and this as reality. I don't know how to be OK with God and within myself.

Thanks for listening...take care, Rachel
 
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Hi all...hope people are having a peaceful day OCD wise. Last night during the night it came to me as if it was being told me in my mind that I was a worthless rebrobate. I'm not even sure what a rebrobate is but I think it's someone who's willfully sinned and won't repent. I daren't dismiss this as not being from God...if it is He must really despise me.

Going downhill again...maybe I hsould just accept the better times as denial and this as reality. I don't know how to be OK with God and within myself.

Thanks for listening...take care, Rachel

The only way to be ok with God is to turn from your sin and towards Jesus as your Lord and Savior.

He won't turn you away. Ask and accept His forgiveness. He will forgive you because He said He would.

John
 
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Thanks Keryakos and John for your replies...I guess they in a way sum up a big part of my problem...some will say it's OCD and not to fear the fears, whilst others will say it's spiritual and you need to get right with God to FEEL right with God.

Thanks again, I do appreciate you taking the time to reply...hope you're both doing OK...take care, Rachel
 
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Rachel, You are stronger then you think. I understand the Lord disciplines those he loves and I don't see that you are that. I'm going thru some OCD myself an I think it's God bringing me back to repentence. I've been doing alot of sinning and just grown cold to the spirit. And God has to swap me in the head cos I'm not listening. A yr ago I was wondering why allthis was happening to me, but I kinda understand know. It was like God was showing me if you refusewhat I want for you this is what will happen. Even tho I do not want it. It is like a peace has come over me cos I believe God is trying to get my attention. Well enough about me. I pray that God will show you too the meaning of all this.
 
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Thanks JohnnieGuy and Dabro. I suppose that's what I worry about...that rather than this being a misperception or reality that it is actually the consequence of sin...ie as you said Dabro, God saying "this is what will happen if you don't do as I say".

Thanks again for you replies...hopw you're both doing OK and that your OCD flare will die down soon Dabro...take care, Rachel
 
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Ya I was afraid of that. meaning saying that cos I know that is what you deal with. I still don't know, there are still ? that my mind has but in some ways it has brought me closer and in some ways pushed me away. The only thing I can do is ask God to show me what all this is for.
 
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Yes some kind of understanding would help...hope you get there with that! Sometimes all this anxiety and struggle and trying to work stuff out seems such an utter waste. Like my life has had so much of it wasted cos I can't overcome who and how I am. If I felt I was moving closer to God through it all it might help but often I feel it's just made the distance between us even wider. I want to be sorted for me but also for my hubby and our son. I want to bring my son up as emotionally, psychologically and spiritually healthy as possible...how I am hampers that desire. I wish if nothing else that I had a sense that God was rooting for me. What I mostly sense is an almighty frown.

Thanks again for your replies...hope you're doing well...take care, Rachel
 
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Hi Rachel,
God would never never say that to you.
Jesus says come to Me all ye that labour and are heavy laden and I will give you rest.
Also Jesus says whosoever will let him come to the Water and drink.
Jesus says he that believeth in Me has everlasting life.
Jesus says he that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.
God was in Jesus reconciling the world to Himself and not counting their sins against them.
Jesus will never leave us or forsake us.
Jesus will never cast usout.
Jesus came to save the world not condemn the world.
He that believeth is not condemned but has passed from death to life.
Try to get these promises into your mind to renew your mind and I hope you get better soon.
I know how painful and scary this can feel.
cry out to Jesus He understands and cares for us,so we can cast all our cares onto Him.
Jesus bless you Rachel.
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Caty,
you are such a blessing and such a sweety,
Those promises are to whosoever,including you and whosever wants to,let him come freely.
Jesus came to save and not condemn.
Only people who do not think they need forgiveness ,who think they are righteous on their own need worry.
Whosever will come may drink freely and will never ever be cast out.
Jesus always tells the turth,Jesus is Truth and Jesus is love,He invites us to taste and see that He is good.
Jesus has power toforgive and wash away our sins in His own blood and loves to do this for us and that is why He died for us.
Jesus is our healer and protector,
our safety,and our confidence.
Jesus is our refuge and our high tower.
Jesus is our wonderful councellor and our prince of peace and Almighty Ggod and our everlasting Father,He is our hope and safety and will always accept everyone who comes.
Jesus is our Lord and our Saviour and our Redeemer
Jesus is tender and longsuffering and kind and patient and understanding and compassionate and forgiving and gracious,not counting our sins against us.
He loves us with an everlasting love and we can come to Him weith any problem and open our heartsup to Him with any question or problem or need.
If we ask for anything good He will give it to us and never ever turn us away.
And all who believe in Him are safe ,have everlasting life and will never be put to shame.
Be blessed caty,you are a child of the most High God all powerful and protecting you.
You and Rachel are both in His hand and shall never perish and none shall snatch you out of His hand.
blessings
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im just so confused about everything, because i want proof that im forgiveable or that God wants me. I know there are scriptures in the Bible but that can be to anyone. they may not apply to my situation and i dont see how i'll ever know, this is killing me slowly. i hate this. i try to leave my problems here on this message board bu then i think "do you even care" i dunno im so confused & stuff i dont know where i stand anymore.
 
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To quote Neil Anderson:

"Scripture clearly teaches that Satan is capable of putting thoughts into our minds. ...These deceptive thought come first person singular in such a way that we think they're our own thoughts.

"...Martin Luther wrote, 'The Devil throws hieous thoughts into the soul--hatred of God, blasphemy, and despair. ...Sometimes he produces such as to make me doubt whether or not there is a God.'

"...David powlison [said], "'Voices' in the mind are not uncommon: blaphemous mockeries,spurts of temptation to wallow in vile fantasy or behavior, pursuasive lines of belief. Classic spiritual warfare inteprets these as coming from the evil one.'

"I have counseled hundreds of believers who are struggling with their thought life. Some have difficulty concentrating and reading their Bible, while others actually hear 'voices' or struggle with accusing or condemning thoughts. With few exceptions these struggles have proven to be a spiritual battle for their mind. This shouldn't surprise us since we have been warned in 1 Timothy 4:1: 'The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.'

"...Many people will assume the are mentally ill...Are they mentally ill or is there a battle going on for heir mind?...Psychiatrits and psychologists routinely see patients who are hearing voices: chemical imbalance is the standard diagnosis. I believe our body chemistry can get out of balance and cause discomfort and hormonal problems can throw our systems off. But I also believe there are other legitimate questions to be asked, such as, 'How can a chemical produce a personal thought?' and 'How can our neurotransmitters involuntarily and randomly fire in such a way that they create thoughts that we are opposed to thinking?' Is there a natural explanation? ...I don't think we will have a comprehensive answer unless we take into account the reality of the spiritual world.

"...Much of what is being passed off today as mental illness is nothing more than a battle for our minds."


"Our struggle is not against flesh and blood but against the rulers...authorities...world powers of darkness...spiritual forces of evil in the heavens." (Ephesians 6:12)

"God has not given us a spirit of fear" (2 Timothy 1:7)

God loved you so much he gave his very life to be with you! While you were at your worst. You cannot be separated from the love of God (Romans 8:35-39). Christ took the penalty of your sin on himself so that you could be with Him forever. He is passionate about His relationship with you (Exodus 34:14). You are worth the world to Him. You are worth dying for.

"...You are important in the sight of God. He says, 'You are precious to me ... and I love you' (Isaiah 43:4, TLB). The very reason Jesus Christ came to earth to offer Himself in sacrifice is so that we might have life in all its fullness, and it is His desire that we be set free from depression, fear, frustration, and hurt so that we might experience this abundant life."~Billy Graham

"The most important truth you will ever discover is that God loves you. He loves you so much that He wants you to spend eternity with Him in heaven."~Billy Graham

The bible says you are free from condemnation (Romans 8:1,2). You are free of any condemning charges against you (Romans 8:31-34). Satan is called "the Accuser of the brethren" for a reason. But there is no condemnation in Christ.

Stop listening to the enemy and start listening to God. "Be transformed by the renewal of your mind" (Romans 12:1,2). “If you continue in My Word," said Jesus, "you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” (John 8:31-32) Here's an online bible if you need one: biblegateway.com or crosswalk.com.


“I give them real and eternal life. They are protected from the Destroyer for good. No one can steal them from out of my hand.” (Jesus, John 10:28)

"He has rescued us from the power of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his beloved Son" (Col. 1:13)

"The thief [Satan] comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." (Jesus, John 10:10)



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...as if it was being told me in my mind that I was a worthless rebrobate...I daren't dismiss this as not being from God...if it is He must really despise me.

Going downhill again...maybe I should just accept the better times as denial and this as reality. I don't know how to be OK with God and within myself.

It was quite significant when God was born of a woman, lived as a God-Human, and did everything in God's power to be attached to this world, to love it and deify it. God craved human life, and God chose to never be detached from God's creation. God is tied to the things of this world forever.
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We must teach each other that God craves us, with uncontrollable passion and desire, so that our world and our flesh (though imperfect) may be re-created and made perfect and healthy for ever. Christ is forever attached to us, and we to Christ, and this is the Church, a community of holy flesh in a sacred world.
Long story short, God loves you. He wouldn't call you a worthless reprobate.
 
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