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What could we expect in a world where Deism is true (i.e. a Creator God who set things in motion and then left us all to our own devices) vs a world where a Christian God is in charge?
What could we expect in a world where Deism is true (i.e. a Creator God who set things in motion and then left us all to our own devices) vs a world where a Christian God is in charge?
The end of life as we know it...and nothing beyond it...and certainly no accountability to anybody...every man to and for himself...this certainly could lead to danger....which is what seems to be happening already....What could we expect in a world where Deism is true (i.e. a Creator God who set things in motion and then left us all to our own devices) vs a world where a Christian God is in charge?
What could we expect in a world where Deism is true (i.e. a Creator God who set things in motion and then left us all to our own devices) vs a world where a Christian God is in charge?
No hell...no bloody sacrifice...and less judgement from belivers.What could we expect in a world where Deism is true (i.e. a Creator God who set things in motion and then left us all to our own devices) vs a world where a Christian God is in charge?
Huh? Deism basically accepted "natural religion." They thought that nature taught their version of God. In a world where Deism is true, everyone would believe in God, but it might be a different kind of God.In a deistic world, this wouldn't necessarily be the case. Perhaps we would have some sort of spiritual drive as an accident of evolution, but we could just have easily have never had any concept of God at all.
Isn't that similar to what people do now?Huh? Deism basically accepted "natural religion." They thought that nature taught their version of God. In a world where Deism is true, everyone would believe in God, but it might be a different kind of God.
Huh? Deism basically accepted "natural religion." They thought that nature taught their version of God. In a world where Deism is true, everyone would believe in God, but it might be a different kind of God.
I think it renders something akin to Neoplatonism, which certainly has some similarity to Vedanta Hinduism.This is probably controversial, but I actually think that reason alone (or reason + contemplation) would give us something closer to the nondualism of Vedanta Hinduism, not the deistic attempt to strip revelation away from a preexisting belief system.
What could we expect in a world where Deism is true (i.e. a Creator God who set things in motion and then left us all to our own devices) vs a world where a Christian God is in charge?
Deism as defined in the OP, renders a very different world. Most monotheism doesn't see the world as existing completely apart from God. Christ Pantokrator, or Christ the Sustainer, is a common motief. The world only exists through the active maintenance of it by God. Hence Revelation, efficacy of Prayer, Miracles, Providence, etc. can exist, almost seemlessly in the whole; while in this Deism, none of this really is possible as such.
May be I can get you to repent (i.e. change your mind)?I hate hypothetical questions, especially ones about Deism.
May be I can get you to repent (i.e. change your mind)?
Well, from my experience my Reason is valid. In the deism you describe, it wouldn't be and be essentially false. So I can only conclude my experience would be wholely other. I can never know truly though, but direct perception argues against it.How is the world different, judging by your experience?
Are you actively experiencing miracles? (such as God's churches being unaffected by COVID19, by believers amputated limbs regrowing, missionaries teleported to a place where they preach Jesus and then taken back to their place of residence, etc...)
Well, from my experience my Reason is valid. In the deism you describe, it wouldn't be and be essentially false. So I can only conclude my experience would be wholely other. I can never know truly though, but direct perception argues against it.
Similarly, I believe the world to be Good for the most part, while the modern myth of Selfishness argues against it, that most are out for themselves. Again my experience is different from what should be the case in your version of Deism, so this argues to me of a constant Good purpose within Creation, which argues for the traditional view of its continuous maintenance by said Good Power.
Finally, I am a doctor. I have seen many patients pull through which had no business surviving, especially now in this time of Covid 19. The thing about miracles is that they are rare, and can always be excused. It depends what axiom you use to judge what occurs. Personally, I believe I have witnessed miracles, things that seem medically impossible or highly unlikely, so this argues against Deism too.
Big difference, the world would be a world of moral chaos, because the deist god is impersonal and doesn't have any moral law to incorporate into our consciences. Also, since it is impersonal there would probably be no language because an impersonal being would not know how to create it. Also, no logic only personal beings can reason. And many other bad things.What could we expect in a world where Deism is true (i.e. a Creator God who set things in motion and then left us all to our own devices) vs a world where a Christian God is in charge?
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