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Chickapee

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Hi there , I have been looking into the seven angels , they are not reffered to my names , but they are , in the Right Hand of Jesus Christ [Stars] and i was wondering if any one knows more about this ?

looking into the 7th here wondering if this has already happened ?
Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.


Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.


Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

thanks I just been studing this lately and dont know
who they are or what they mean ?
peace C ...
 

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Hi there , I have been looking into the seven angels , they are not reffered to my names , but they are , in the Right Hand of Jesus Christ [Stars] and i was wondering if any one knows more about this ?

looking into the 7th here wondering if this has already happened ?

thanks I just been studing this lately and dont know
who they are or what they mean ?
peace C ...
Hi. I would say they are symbolizing a type of "Priests" which seems to go along with the Jericho event in Joshua 6.

Joshua 6:4 and seven Priests/03548 kohen shall bear seven trumpets/07782 showphar of the jubilees/03104 yowbel to faces of the ark, and in day the seventh ye shall compass/05437 cabab the city seven of times/06471 pa`am, and the Priests/03548 kohen shall blow in trumpets/07782 showphar,
16 and becoming in time the seventh, the Priests blew in trumpets, and Y@howshuwa` is saying to the people, "Shout ye/07321 ruwa`, that YHWH gave to ye the city;

Reve 15:1 And I perceived another sign in the heaven, great and marvelous. Messengers, seven, having stripes/blows, seven, the last, that in them is Finished the fury of the God.

Reve 19:3 and a second time they have declared "Hallelujah!" and the Smoke of Her is ascending into the Ages of the Ages
 
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Indeed, it is refering to priests, but not any specific priests.
The word "angel" in Greek is a translation of the Hebrew mal'ak which basically just means messenger.

The messengers of the churches are those who deliver the message of the Gospel, viz. the pastors.
The 7 (number of completeness) of the seven churches and seven priests at Jericho is to show that what is being said applies to all churches, all clergy, and, indeed, all times too.
 
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Actually, I'm pretty embarrassed that I thought I knew what you were refering to so I skipped ahead.
Then I saw that you were talking about the angels that deliver God's judgment.

When studying the Bible it's important to be able to distinguish between things based on the Bible's context.

In the first three chapters of Revelation 'angel' refers to humans, that is, the church leaders.
This can be understood in realizing that they are being given commands on how to run their churches.
(Of course, it can also be that the Holy Ghost is sent through an angel to those in the Church, but I wouldn't be so sure of that.)

After chapter three, the angels appear as agents of delivering worship to God and from him, judgment.
The first part can be applied indeed to pastors and parishoners, but the seond cannot.
The Church is not set up to administer God's wrath upon the unbelieving world (as should be understood from I Corinthians chapter 5), so the angels of judgment should not be read as being the Church.

I don't think the identity of those angels is really so important as what they are doing.
If God wanted their names to be known, he would have wrote them down when revealing the Revelation to John.

God, through them, reigned down his judgment on all flesh and that was their claim to fame.
 
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Thanks a bunch Little Lamb and Krelian for your replies ..they are helpful indeed
I seem to have more questions than answers as of late ..
little lAMB , I believe your right in Joshua 6 !
seeing that now !
and the trumpts vials [bowls] as simultaneous
occuring at the same time , the trumpets are a [warning for battle ] in Ezekiel and as Paul says here ?

Eze 7:14 They have blown the trumpet, even to make all ready; but none goeth to the battle: for my wrath [is] upon all the multitude thereof.


1Cr 14:8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?


and Krelian thanks , yes the judgments of the world are given , by the saints ? that is the Church , the Body of Christ , as the clouds of witnesses with Him


1Cr 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?


Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

there seems to be two covenants working
one for Israel
and the other for the rest [gentiles]
I think this for many diffent reasons
for One reason is what Jesus says to them in the gospels and two
it says in ACTS from James
and three , what paul says in romans witnesses speaking

here they are Jesus says
Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Luk 22:30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

James Act 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down;

and I will build again the ruins thereof,

and I will set it up:That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

and Paul
Rom 11:24For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural [branches], be graffed into their own olive tree?
seems the two olive trees in zech are the tame [natural] and the wild olive trees
one is David Psa 52:8 But I [am] like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever.

Hbr 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

AND about these maybe ? in Ezekiel its spoken about David being the Shepherd here A TYPE OF CHRIST ?
this is a bit confusing for me
, but im looking for connections Help ??Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, [even] my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

Eze 37:24 And David my servant [shall be] king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.



so you see im needing some help here lol
thanks for all you have done
His peace and Love reign in our hearts
C

Rev 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.
 
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Oh yeah i forgot one of the main ones sorry !! seeing this as the TIME OF their visitation
while the Lord was among them in the earth , before He returns in SPIRIT to save all whomsoever will
the gentile woman [dogs] in matt who had FAITH in CHRIST that saves
Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

im not sure of anything though
peace and Gods love C
 
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Heh, a bit overkill, but at least you made your point XD
I stand corrected :p

Still, "iron sharpeneth iron" I guess, so thank you :)
oh krelian , lol , your too cute .
I was just looking and found the extras lol:)
like you bro , Im still looking into these things and Honestly , just dont know !??!! and how it all fits in the Grande scheme of things in GODS plan ,
so many say one thing and one says another , and I admit , im confused at times , more than other times , I just had a looong break , cause , my mind got a bit boggled with studying

I did enjoy your posts though :) thanks for trying to help me , Im so wondering about them 7 angels though ! GOD help us all .. peace in Gods love through Jesus ,, Chicka
 
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Hi there , I have been looking into the seven angels , they are not reffered to my names , but they are , in the Right Hand of Jesus Christ [Stars] and i was wondering if any one knows more about this ?

looking into the 7th here wondering if this has already happened ?
Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

thanks I just been studing this lately and dont know
who they are or what they mean ?
peace C ...

Hi Chickapee,

This event has not already happened, but is a future occurrence. The seventh angel is commissioned by God to make a formal announcement which only God Himself could know. "In the days" denotes that the days commence with his sounding, which develops into the seven final plagues of the seven Vials. These will complete the judgments which God had up to this time kept secret.

I fail to understand why the above verses make you wonder if it has already occurred?

Blessings!
 
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Hi Chickapee,

This event has not already happened, but is a future occurrence. The seventh angel is commissioned by God to make a formal announcement which only God Himself could know. "In the days" denotes that the days commence with his sounding, which develops into the seven final plagues of the seven Vials. These will complete the judgments which God had up to this time kept secret.

I fail to understand why the above verses make you wonder if it has already occurred?

Blessings!

Hi Alethes,

you see the seventh angel and vial being poured out as a future event
I see it as perpetual [ The Word of God ] being everlasting eternal , perpetual WORD OF GOD of everlasting endurance , describing a
lasting for ever or for a long time; occurring repeatedly over a long time

making Jesus Christ words to the devil in Matt 4 on the mount of temptaion sooooo TRUE

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Just to me , for some it has happened already , to some it is happening now and to yet others it is a future of fulfilling but the WORD OF GOD IS ETERNAL

and done many times over and over again

STANDING TRUTH till complete , Perfect and entire

I also have to state that , in my faith in God , I believe , its always been and Individual [each man in their own order] WORK OF GOD
and that is why know one knows , the time and hour
not the angels of Heaven nor Christ but GOD ONLY

when receiving His mercy as well as His judgements

GOD is in total and complete Control , salvation is of God and faith in Him and His Christ is an absolute requirement
to me
just some of my thoughts on these things bro ...........and why I see it this way

Blessings to you and yours from the Lord God on High C
 
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looking into the 7th here wondering if this has already happened ?
Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

you see the seventh angel and vial being poured out as a future event
I see it as perpetual [ The Word of God ] being everlasting eternal , perpetual WORD OF GOD of everlasting endurance , describing a
lasting for ever or for a long time; occurring repeatedly over a long time
Hi Chickapee!!! Great post and insight!!!!

I can also view it as the OC being consummated of the nations of "israel/judah". Revelation really must be read as an OC Jew under the OC LAW would read it, not as a "gentile" who never really knew God.

The Perpetual Good-News to the Jews is a New Covenant of worshipping YHWH in Spirit and not in Sacrifices.

Note Daniel 12:7 and Reve 10:5 :wave:

Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he lifted up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and swore by Him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when They have made an end of breaking in pieces the Power of the Holy People, ALL these Things shall be Finished.

Reve 10:5And the messenger whom I saw standing upon the sea, and upon the land, lifts-up his hand into the heaven,
6 and swears in the One living who lives into the ages of the ages, who creates the heaven and those in it, and the land and those in it, and the sea and those in it--that time not still shall be. 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh messenger, whenever he is being about to be trumpeting, also/and is-finished the mystery of the GOD, as He brings the well message to-the, of Himself, bondslaves, the Prophets
 
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Hi Chickapee!!! Great post and insight!!!!

I can also view it as the OC being consummated of the nations of "israel/judah". Revelation really must be read as an OC Jew under the OC LAW would read it, not as a "gentile" who never really knew God.

The Perpetual Good-News to the Jews is a New Covenant of worshipping YHWH in Spirit and not in Sacrifices.

Note Daniel 12:7 and Reve 10:5 :wave:

Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he lifted up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and swore by Him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when They have made an end of breaking in pieces the Power of the Holy People, ALL these Things shall be Finished.

Reve 10:5And the messenger whom I saw standing upon the sea, and upon the land, lifts-up his hand into the heaven,
6 and swears in the One living who lives into the ages of the ages, who creates the heaven and those in it, and the land and those in it, and the sea and those in it--that time not still shall be. 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh messenger, whenever he is being about to be trumpeting, also/and is-finished the mystery of the GOD, as He brings the well message to-the, of Himself, bondslaves, the Prophets

Awesome !

well said Lambkin , I hear what your saying bro!

thanks for the clarity and confirmation !:clap:

settles it for me :hug: :kiss:
His peace to you and yours C ...
 
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