Wonderful verse

(1Co 12:3) Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

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Glory to God that we can see his mercy!

LORD Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have mercy on me, the sinner!

Truth to that.

eoe said:

Glory to God that we can see his mercy!

LORD Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have mercy on me, the sinner!

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But then what do we do with Matt. 7:21?

hey I think a chain re-action is happening on GT

woobadooba said:

But then what do we do with Matt. 7:21?

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One may call Jesus Lord only by the Holy Ghost, but that still does not mean they will enter Heaven.

Luke950 said:

One may call Jesus Lord only by the Holy Ghost, but that still does not mean they will enter Heaven.

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Good answer.

We don't enter into heaven merely by calling Jesus Lord, but by allowing Him to be Lord of our lives.

And it makes no difference how much good we do, if Jesus isn't recognized as being the Lord of the work, then the work is done in vain.

And it makes no difference how much good we do, if Jesus isn't recognized as being the Lord of the work, then the work is done in vain.

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Wipe your shoes at the door, you are tracking straw in here.

Oblio said:

Wipe your shoes at the door, you are tracking straw in here.

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I don't quite understand what you mean.

woobadooba said:

I don't quite understand what you mean.

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Explain your comment I quoted, and the impetus for it and you may have your answer.

Oblio said:

Explain your comment I quoted, and the impetus for it and you may have your answer.

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Well, what I just simply meant was that if we do the work of God, but fail to recognize the Lord of the work, then the work is done in vain in the sense that it is of no benefit to us. For, the purpose of the work is not merely to edify others, but to sanctify the heart of the one who does it.

But I still don't know what you meant.

woobadooba said:

Well, what I just simply meant was that if we do the work of God, but fail to recognize the Lord of the work, then the work is done in vain in the sense that it is of no benefit to us. For, the purpose of the work is not merely to edify others, but to sanctify the heart of the one who does it.

But I still don't know what you meant.

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wooba.. just come back at the other thread.. wipe your shoes.. thought I smelled something

Well, what I just simply meant was that if we do the work of God, but fail to recognize the Lord of the work, then the work is done in vain in the sense that it is of no benefit to us. For, the purpose of the work is not merely to edify others, but to sanctify the heart of the one who does it.

But I still don't know what you meant.

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I just didn't see any connection of that with the OP, or the follow on comments, unless you had a prejudice against the OP.

Kyrie Iesous Christos, Yia tou Theo, Eleison e mas.

Oblio said:

I just didn't see any connection of that with the OP, or the follow on comments, unless you had a prejudice against the OP.

Kyrie Iesous Christos, Yia tou Theo, Eleison e mas.

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Why would I have a prejudice against the OP? I was just trying to introduce another idea that shares close ties with what he had said. That's all.

The idea is that it takes the Holy Spirit to bring us to the point of recognizing Jesus as Lord. But calling Him Lord doesn't necessarily mean we are filled with the Holy Spirit.

I would hope that in the future you wouldn't be so hasty to judge my motives as being impure.

woobadooba said:

Why would I have a prejudice against the OP? I was just trying to introduce another idea that shares close ties with what he had said. That's all.

The idea is that it takes the Holy Spirit to bring us to the point of recognizing Jesus as Lord. But calling Him Lord doesn't necessarily mean we are filled with the Holy Spirit.

I would hope that in the future you wouldn't be so hasty to judge my motives as being impure.

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Fair enough, I can only take your word for it.

Ceaseless prayer, as demonstrated in the OP, can be part of our reaching Theosis and the attaining of the Holy Spirit.

Oblio said:

Ceaseless prayer, as demonstrated in the OP, can be part of our reaching Theosis and the attaining of the Holy Spirit.

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We ought to pray that God would give us a spirit that enables us to find the the best in each other.

woobadooba said:

We ought to pray that God would give us a spirit that enables us to find the the best in each other.

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AMHN !

[c]Prayer of St. Ephrem the Syrian
to the Most Holy Spirit[/c]

O Lord, Heavenly King, Comforter, Spirit of Truth, have compassion and mercy on Thy sinful servant and pardon my unworthiness, and forgive me all the sins that I humanly committed today, and not only humanly but even worse than a beast - my voluntary sins, known and unknown, from my youth and from evil suggestions, and from my brazenness, and from boredom. If I have sworn by Thy Name or blasphemed it in thought, blamed or reproached anyone, or in my anger have detracted or slandered anyone, or grieved anyone, or if I have got angry about anything, or have told a lie, if I have slept unnecessarily, or if a beggar has come to me and I despised or neglected him, or if I have troubled my brother or quarrelled with him, or if I have condemned anyone, or have boasted, or have been proud, or lost my temper with anyone, or if when standing in prayer my mind has been distracted by the glamour of this world, or if I have had depraved thoughts or have overeaten, or have drunk excessively, or have laughed frivolously, or have thought evil, or have seen the attraction of someone and been wounded by it in my heart, or said indecent things, or made fun of my brother's sin when my own faults are countless, or been neglectful of prayer, or have done some other wrong that I cannot remember - for I have done all this and much more - have mercy, my Lord and Creator, on me Thy wretched and unworthy servant, and absolve and forgive and deliver me in Thy goodness and love for men, so that, lustful, sinful and wretched as I am, I may lie down and sleep and rest in peace. And I shall worship, praise and glorify Thy most honourable Name, with the Father and His only-begotten Son, now and ever, and for all ages. Amen.

eoe said:

"(1Co 12:3) Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost."

Glory to God that we can see his mercy!

LORD Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have mercy on me, the sinner!

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Kyrie eleison. Christe eleison.

Your brother in Christ.