Women's Ordination

[Simon_Templar]

So, what do you guys think about the topic of ordaining women as pastors/priests etc??

 

[talitha]

I personally believe there is no restriction given by God, but I don't think people should create factions within their respective denominations based on this belief.

 

[StephanStrategy]

Personally, I am not in favor of ordaining women to the pastorate. That being said, I was just replaced by a woman Chaplain when my unit redeployed from Iraq.

I am free enough to work in the "co-ed" environment of the Army Chaplaincy, but my personal beliefs are different.

Mike

 

[CyberPaladin]

I don't believe women should be pastors.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

One of my closest CF friends is a female pastor She's conservative, and wonderful and I don't know what I'd do without her.

Women often have a nurturing quality that makes them more approachable, and that's an important quality to have. Have known pastors who were brutally cold, and the idea of going to one of them for advice or help was anathema.

 

[hizlamb]

I think a woman should stick with scripture when it comes to her roles in service to God...

Im sure thats a long drawn out battle already been over more times than can count..but oh well

JMO

 

[John1and1]

i think we should do what God said to do and dont do what He says not to do... hows that for a concept?

 

[GreenMunchkin]

i think we should do what God said to do and dont do what He says not to do... hows that for a concept?

It's a great one

 

[talitha]

where does it say "women are not allowed to pastor" in the Bible?

 

[hizlamb]

Alot of places...alot of places show the roles of women in the church..

Where does it say its allowed?

Im gonna say study it..then ask yerself. Cuz I believe you know scripture and its only a stab at conforming..

Actually, there may be people reading that DONT know the scripture that well..so I will add this:

THIS is Gods word on it... not mine... those who wish to explain it away and disregard it... well, all I can do is give you the word, and you can accept it or reject it...
1 Tim. 2
[11] Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
[12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
[13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
[14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
The woman is to learn in silence... this is not to say she isn’t to ask questions to clear up points she doesn’t understand... but she is NOT TO TEACH A MAN... NOR IS SHE to rule over a man... nor use authority over a man. This ELIMINATES a woman from pastoring a church.

***credit due John 1and1 from a previous study ****

 

[selfintercession]

Jesus made the first ordained leaders of His Church all men. Enough said.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

Jesus made the first ordained leaders of His Church all men. Enough said.

Hey! When'd you become a mod? That's good to see

 

[talitha]

When did Jesus ordain anyone?

 

[talitha]

Alot of places...alot of places show the roles of women in the church..

Where does it say its allowed?

Im gonna say study it..then ask yerself. Cuz I believe you know scripture and its only a stab at conforming..

You're a woman, and you're teaching right now.

I think this is another one where we at CCF are going to have to agree to disagree. The "slain in the spirit" thread was the first, and it's wonderful how civily that thread is going. I hope this one maintains the same high road.

blessings
tal

 

[John1and1]

Hiz Lamb is not usurping any authority over a man... this is a biblical requirement that a pastor userps biblical authority over the flock, making him responsible for all he teaches and for each soul in his hand. He leads the men in confronting sin in other brothers 2-3 at a time if he is aware of it or suspects it. He brings it before the church so that the man must repent or turn in shame. A woman is not to userp this authorty over men

 

[hizlamb]

Therez a difference between teaching ..as in showing, helping, aiding, offering scripture for growth..

The question was for ordaining a woman. Not teaching

Letz also add that the scripture sayz 'teaching or ursurping authority over a MAN"
Letz also add this:

Tit.2
[1] But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:
[2] That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
[3] The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
[4] That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
[5] To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
[6] Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.

God bless

 

[John1and1]

By the way... Jesus certinaly did ordain men

He ordained the 12 and then the 70... After He arose He ordained Peter, saying "Feed My sheep".

He ordained them all before He ascended into heaven, telling them to preach the gospel in all the world, making diciples.

 

[Albion]

So, what do you guys think about the topic of ordaining women as pastors/priests etc??

By scripture and/or by tradition--the two conservative standards--there aren't women priests or presbyters.

If this were another forum, I'd say "to each his own" but since it is the Conservative Christians' forum, the conservative answer is...no women ordained.

The only ways that it could be otherwise are:

1) if a person were to put human reasoning about equality, etc. ahead of tradition and scripture, i.e. the liberal approach

or else

2) support change concerning pastors because society has changed in its own socio-political views, which again is a liberal approach to providing an answer.

 

[Sophia7]

I'm not in favor of women pastors. I think that we are all--women and men alike--called to minister to others as God empowers us, but I don't believe that the Bible supports the practice of placing women in positions of authority over men in the church.

 

[Albion]

When did Jesus ordain anyone?

When he called his apostles (by definition, messengers of Jesus the Christ) and commissioned them to celebrate the Lord's Supper, baptise converts, and preach the Gospel. That's essentially what ordination has been about ever since.