Witches

Tellyontellyon · Aug 8, 2021

My mother, aunt and sister are all witches. My sister is a Luciferian and wears his symbol on her necklace.
Sometimes they do spells to help others, sometimes to hurt others.
Unlike the Wiccans, they don't believe hurting others carries any repercussions.

It seems to me that witchery is making a really rapid comeback and is getting very popular...

+ Witchcraft seems to be growing so quickly while Christianity seems to be shrinking... What's going on?

Sketcher · Aug 8, 2021

Tellyontellyon said:
My mother, aunt and sister are all witches. My sister is a Luciferian and wears his symbol on her necklace.
Sometimes they do spells to help others, sometimes to hurt others.
Unlike the Wiccans, they don't believe hurting others carries any repercussions.

It seems to me that witchery is making a really rapid comeback and is getting very popular...

+ Witchcraft seems to be growing so quickly while Christianity seems to be shrinking... What's going on?

People who don't like Christian rules or culture look for something else.

Ignatius the Kiwi · Aug 8, 2021

There is probably a wider sociological answer, yet the most basic answer to me is that men and women have forgotten God and instead of relying on the Christian tradition to satisfy their desire for spirituality and meaning they want to rely on mainstream or 'cool' forms of spirituality.

Mark Quayle · Aug 8, 2021

Personally, I don't take anyone's definition for 'Christian' as an indicator for numbers. It does my heart good to see people leaving the church/religion because "They went out from us because they were not of us." The polarity is indicative.

Either way, it is in God's plan for things to go as they do. It doesn't bother me. Polarity is often a very good thing —I don't care much for pretenders.

HTacianas · Aug 8, 2021

Tellyontellyon said:
My mother, aunt and sister are all witches. My sister is a Luciferian and wears his symbol on her necklace.
Sometimes they do spells to help others, sometimes to hurt others.
Unlike the Wiccans, they don't believe hurting others carries any repercussions.

It seems to me that witchery is making a really rapid comeback and is getting very popular...

+ Witchcraft seems to be growing so quickly while Christianity seems to be shrinking... What's going on?

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth,

Mark Quayle · Aug 8, 2021

HTacianas said:
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth,

And that, according to God's plan —not as though the Bride of Christ will be made of fewer members.

Pavel Mosko · Aug 8, 2021

Tellyontellyon said:
My mother, aunt and sister are all witches. My sister is a Luciferian and wears his symbol on her necklace.
Sometimes they do spells to help others, sometimes to hurt others.
Unlike the Wiccans, they don't believe hurting others carries any repercussions.

It seems to me that witchery is making a really rapid comeback and is getting very popular...

+ Witchcraft seems to be growing so quickly while Christianity seems to be shrinking... What's going on?

It's called Bookends in stories. Christianity started out with a literal pagan majority, and under persecution. So for the last act of the story we get to repeat it but a little more metaphorical this time around, to give things a sense of symmetry and conflict to keep things interesting before things wrap up.

Bookends - TV Tropes

Tolworth John · Aug 9, 2021

Tellyontellyon said:
Sometimes they do spells to help others, sometimes to hurt others.
Unlike the Wiccans, they don't believe hurting others carries any repercussions.

So as a Buddhist how do you react to such a believe?

What they believe and what Buddhism teaches about Karma cannot both be correct, one of you is dangerously wrong.

Tellyontellyon · Aug 9, 2021

Tolworth John said:
What they believe and what Buddhism teaches about Karma cannot both be correct, one of you is dangerously wrong.

I think if you intentionally harm another being, then that plants a seed of Karma. That seed will grow and ripen, and the fruit will come when the right conditions are present.

Tolworth John · Aug 9, 2021

Tellyontellyon said:
I think if you intentionally harm another being, then that plants a seed of Karma. That seed will grow and ripen, and the fruit will come when the right conditions are present.

So it follows that the path they are following is false.
How are you seeking to change their harmful way of believe and practice?

angelsaroundme · Aug 9, 2021

I think many contemporary Christians do not take witchcraft seriously. Combine that with the fact that women are generally viewed as harmless in today's society and the result is a decreasing social stigma for women calling themselves witches. Because witches and women with powers have a cultural association with the strong woman archetype, men especially are discouraged for speaking against a woman for being a witch as they might be labeled sexist or oppressive.

Tellyontellyon · Aug 9, 2021

Tolworth John said:
So it follows that the path they are following is false.

Well, according to my path anyway... or at least 'unskilful', in that it will lead to suffering (according to my belief).
They know my belief, but beyond that it is up to them.
Buddhists tend not to proselytise very much.

FutureAndAHope · Aug 10, 2021

Tellyontellyon said:
My mother, aunt and sister are all witches. My sister is a Luciferian and wears his symbol on her necklace.
Sometimes they do spells to help others, sometimes to hurt others.
Unlike the Wiccans, they don't believe hurting others carries any repercussions.

It seems to me that witchery is making a really rapid comeback and is getting very popular...

+ Witchcraft seems to be growing so quickly while Christianity seems to be shrinking... What's going on?

I would suggest that a part of the problem in the West is the media we consume, be it TV, computer games, etc. A lot of it has magical themes and is depicted as harmless. This would lead some people down that path.

Tolworth John · Aug 11, 2021

Tellyontellyon said:
Well, according to my path anyway... or at least 'unskilful', in that it will lead to suffering (according to my belief).
They know my belief, but beyond that it is up to them.
Buddhists tend not to proselytise very much.

As a Buddhist it only means they will be reincarnated even lower on the wheel of life.
As a Christian because they do not believe in Jesus they are already condemned.
John 3;16-18.

It all depends what the truth is.

Jeffwhosoever · Aug 12, 2021

I am seeing more and more people claiming to be either suffering as a result of real-life witches or at least people who claim to be witches and cast spells and mess with the occult in a dangerous way. These are adults, not kids playing with Ouiji boards, another thing I avoid. I don't think it is a good sign for this to be happening, as it often suggests people are messing around with dark forces.

Tellyontellyon · Aug 13, 2021

Jeffwhosoever said:
it often suggests people are messing around with dark forces.

The women in my family aren't messing around, they are deadly serious.

ViaCrucis · Aug 18, 2021

Tellyontellyon said:
My mother, aunt and sister are all witches. My sister is a Luciferian and wears his symbol on her necklace.
Sometimes they do spells to help others, sometimes to hurt others.
Unlike the Wiccans, they don't believe hurting others carries any repercussions.

It seems to me that witchery is making a really rapid comeback and is getting very popular...

+ Witchcraft seems to be growing so quickly while Christianity seems to be shrinking... What's going on?

There is likely no one-size-fits-all explanation.

I think that there are a lot of reasons why, in some parts of the world, why the churches are hemorrhaging. It is becoming less culturally expectant for people in traditionally Christian societies to be religious, and so less people are attending church, and many people are exploring other religions, or becoming non-religious.

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