Witchcraft

[tucker58]

Witchcraft, not the religion, "What is it? And why does it work for some people?"

love,

tuck

 

[lemmings]

Who says witchcraft actually exists? Many people have been accused of witchcraft but if areas like Somalia are any indication, the "witches" tend to be women, children, or albinos.

 

[nolongerhome]

Witchcraft, not the religion, "What is it? And why does it work for some people?"

love,

tuck

What do you by "work"?

 

[GrowingSmaller]

Binding and loosing were popular concepts in the Middle Ages, and are at least magical if not witchy. It was thought that witches had familiar spirits, and that they could ride to coven meetings on broomsticks. Also IIRC it was thought they could shapeshift. Witchcraft was illegal in Europe until fairly recently, and I have heard that judges tended to favour the prosecutor because to deny the charges might be seen as siding with the dark side and irreligion.

 

[jayem]

I'd guess that people who call themselves witches enjoy role-playing, and gain some psychological satisfaction from performing rituals. (Probably little different from the rituals that are part of most all religions.) I don't believe any kind of magic, white or black, exists. And as long as no persons or animals are hurt, I don't see any harm.

 

[tucker58]

I was just curious about what you guys would have to say. Because I have a strong relationship with God and am a Christian, witchcraft doesn't work against/on me very well. And folks that can do so called true witchcraft are very rare. They do exist though.

Some of the aboriginal folk in Australia can do some interesting things, things similar to what some of the Voo doo folk can do. And the black panther cat folk in Africa can also do some interesting things that just can't be explained.

Then we have some of the oriental folk that can do some interesting stuff with Chi which is generally not considered witchcraft but generating and manipulating Chi is based my experience very similar to what the black panther cat people do.

Again based on my experience most folks that do negative so called witchcraft create a very slow vibrational mental reality and then use that slow vibrational mental reality to effect those they wish to effect. Sort of like canceling Chi. All of a sudden you just do not have Chi where you are suppose to have Chi and things just don't work right any more .

A lot of so called witchcraft comes under the heading of "psychic abilities" which you guys do not believe in either. But they are also real, just unexplainable.

love,

tuck

 

[tucker58]

Hey guys I am tangling a witch in the world religion forum

Oh no!

God but I love this message board, it has everything in it.

love

reverend tuck

 

[GrowingSmaller]

IIRC spell derives from the germanis "spiel" or speech. I think in the olden days words were arrtibuted with more power than today. To curse or bless was to affect reality as much as to act physically, to "speak an event" into being with words alone was regarded as possible. I heard that in the past people sometimes had a secret name. To know a name was to expose the essence, and thus make it potentially vulnerable to witchcraft. Secret names hid ones true essence. IIRC the practice of crossing ones fingers when hiding the truth allegedly dates to times when ones false name was given and fingers were crossed to bring luck, but I might not have that right. Will maybe check later. It is interesting that we use false names online.

 

[tucker58]

IIRC spell derives from the germanis "spiel" or speech. I think in the olden days words were arrtibuted with more power than today. To curse or bless was to affect reality as much as to act physically, to "speak an event" into being with words alone was regarded as possible. I heard that in the past people sometimes had a secret name. To know a name was to expose the essence, and thus make it potentially vulnerable to witchcraft. Secret names hid ones true essence. IIRC the practice of crossing ones fingers when hiding the truth allegedly dates to times when ones false name was given and fingers were crossed to bring luck, but I might not have that right. Will maybe check later. It is interesting that we use false names online.

GS, your post is valid.

We also have to deal with Advertising. And the professionals that back a political person. They are all experts at manipulating the minds of all of us to create a reality that they wish to create. And the better that they are at it, the better they are at making money.

"Minds at play" everybody on this message board, except management (those people are an enigma), are on a mission to play with the minds of others. Everybody . GS what is interesting about you is that you are not here because of money. You are here just for fun. and playing with the minds of others . One has to respect your approach to reality GS .

You are here just for fun, with actually no other mandate.

Where fun goes and how it is played is a part of the fun. "JESUS IS LORD" is my mandate and that is my fun. We just let God, if He actually exists, sort things out and see what happens.

GS, I am not sure that you are actually a gift to Jesus, but I am absolutely sure that you are a gift to this message board. Not that any of this stuff matters.

I love you GS, because you are a gift to this Christian message board! and you really are!

just love,

tuck

 

[gwdboi]

Witchcraft, not the religion, "What is it? And why does it work for some people?"

love,

tuck

Witchcraft is the religion of the old gods of the pantheons. As a witch our main belief is that we can positively change the world around us through working with each other and other spirits who assist us in our work. We seek to better our lives and the lives of others through teaching that there is more to life than what you see with your physical eyes. We seek to teach others that if they want anything to happen in their lives then they better make it happen themselves because no god will make your life happen for you. We believe in teaching wisdom and also that sometimes you must perform "negative" actions in order to achieve an overall positive goal.

Witchcraft is not role playing, it is not just dancing around outside naked... everything has a purpose in ritual. The main concept that is held most highly in witchcraft is "in perfect love and perfect trust" which we express in our rituals.

 

[Searching_for_Christ]

Witchcraft isn't a religion, it is what would be considered a "craft" anyone can practice witchcraft, its not to be confused with the religion of Wicca ect. What do I think of it? I think its absolute bull.

 

[Eudaimonist]

What do I think of it? I think its absolute bull.

Of course it is, just as much as the practices of any religion. But it probably does have some beneficial effects regardless.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[gwdboi]

Witchcraft isn't a religion, it is what would be considered a "craft" anyone can practice witchcraft, its not to be confused with the religion of Wicca ect. What do I think of it? I think its absolute bull.

This is such a common misconception... and it truly lies in the definition of terms. First off, witchcraft is a religion far older than wicca. Wicca is a version of neo-paganism much like baptist is a version of christianity. Now, I believe the word everyone is looking for is magick. Magick is not a religion and can be practiced by anyone. There are many forms of magickal practice and each religion, yes even christianity, has its own version of magick. Magick, however, is not witchcraft... magick is a part of witchcraft much like singing hymns is a part of going to church. In pagan culture witchcraft is viewed as a general term that can categorize most of us who call ourselves pagan.

 

[Searching_for_Christ]

This is such a common misconception

Not really, I just gave you the opposite. The common misconsception is that it is a religion.

First off, witchcraft is a religion far older than wicca

Yes it is older, but its not a religion... its a CRAFT.
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In pagan culture witchcraft is viewed as a general term that can categorize most of us who call ourselves pagan.

I don't see how thats true, Witchcraft is practiced by Pagans, but not all pagans practice witchcraft, or even care about it.

 

[awitch]

Just to confuse everyone more, the US Supreme court used "witchcraft" and "Wicca" interchangeably when formally recognizing Wicca as a religion.

I wouldn't say witchcraft is a religion - it certainly is not standardized among witches.

 

[tucker58]

Witchcraft is the religion of the old gods of the pantheons. As a witch our main belief is that we can positively change the world around us through working with each other and other spirits who assist us in our work. We seek to better our lives and the lives of others through teaching that there is more to life than what you see with your physical eyes. We seek to teach others that if they want anything to happen in their lives then they better make it happen themselves because no god will make your life happen for you. We believe in teaching wisdom and also that sometimes you must perform "negative" actions in order to achieve an overall positive goal.

Witchcraft is not role playing, it is not just dancing around outside naked... everything has a purpose in ritual. The main concept that is held most highly in witchcraft is "in perfect love and perfect trust" which we express in our rituals.

Witchcraft actually goes before the old gods.

"No god will make your life happen for you."

if you give Jesus and His name a chance, you can receive guidance that will happen in your life. And the original "Pagans" went to a source that helped them with their life. The Druids (the fall Druids) messed that up. The original Pagans came under the love of the Mother and were not into human and animal blood sacrifice. Which is why no true pagan to this day, actually comes under the law of the Catholic church. The true Pagans that worshiped the Divine Mother actually supported the Christians that were attempting to bring a stop to human and animal sacrifice.

Yes you gw, can carry the power of a god (we all can), but you can never win against a person who loves God or the Divine Mother, because of your personal power as a god. gw, I think that you personally miss represent true pagan reality.

Work your personal majik gw, and let us all have a look at it. There will be no Divine Mother love in your personal majik. You do not represent the Divine Mother.

love,

tuck

 

[Searching_for_Christ]

original Pagans came under the love of the Mother The true Pagans that worshiped the Divine Mother actually supported the Christians
Yes you gw, can carry the power of a god (we all can), but you can never win against a person who loves God or the Divine Mother, because of your personal power as a god. gw, I think that you personally miss represent true pagan reality.

Work your personal majik gw, and let us all have a look at it. There will be no Divine Mother love in your personal majik. You do not represent the Divine Mother.

love,

tuck

...what the HECK are you talking about?

 

[Wiccan_Child]

This is such a common misconception... and it truly lies in the definition of terms. First off, witchcraft is a religion far older than wicca.

I'd be surprised if modern witchcraft really were tied to much older forms. But then, continuity is hard to establish, especially with recent revivalism and the whole Crowley influx.

Wicca is a version of neo-paganism much like baptist is a version of christianity. Now, I believe the word everyone is looking for is magick. Magick is not a religion and can be practiced by anyone. There are many forms of magickal practice and each religion, yes even christianity, has its own version of magick. Magick, however, is not witchcraft... magick is a part of witchcraft much like singing hymns is a part of going to church. In pagan culture witchcraft is viewed as a general term that can categorize most of us who call ourselves pagan.

Witchcraft is a method of using magick, but neither are religions. You don't have to be Wiccan to be a witch, and vice versa. Wicca (and Asatru, etc) is the religion, while witchcraft is the craft.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

...what the HECK are you talking about?

Couldn't put it better myself.

 

[awitch]

Witchcraft actually goes before the old gods.

"No god will make your life happen for you."

if you give Jesus and His name a chance, you can receive guidance that will happen in your life. And the original "Pagans" went to a source that helped them with their life. The Druids (the fall Druids) messed that up. The original Pagans came under the love of the Mother and were not into human and animal blood sacrifice. Which is why no true pagan to this day, actually comes under the law of the Catholic church. The true Pagans that worshiped the Divine Mother actually supported the Christians that were attempting to bring a stop to human and animal sacrifice.

Yes you gw, can carry the power of a god (we all can), but you can never win against a person who loves God or the Divine Mother, because of your personal power as a god. gw, I think that you personally miss represent true pagan reality.

Work your personal majik gw, and let us all have a look at it. There will be no Divine Mother love in your personal majik. You do not represent the Divine Mother.

love,

tuck

Tucker, may I sincerely ask who is feeding you this bizarre information?