Will you still go to hell if you're saved and commit suicide?

Aldebaran · Oct 23, 2017

Kano Giovanni said:
I do attend a Church. My wife believes that 'her children come before God'. Living with a non-Christian is like....I feel like I'm voluntarily living in terrible sin. I'm periodically missing church cause she always has some excuse why she needs me at home and my patience is growing bitterly short with that too...

Not at all. 1 Corinthians 7:12-14 says:

"But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he must not divorce her. And a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and he consents to live with her, she must not send her husband away. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy."

Tomm · Oct 24, 2017

Kano Giovanni said:
Will you still go to hell if you're saved and commit suicide?

It's a contradiction to say that -- Will you still go to hell if you're saved.
If you're "saved already", you wouldn't go to hell.

Kit Sigmon · Oct 24, 2017

Kano Giovanni said:
I do attend a Church. My wife believes that 'her children come before God'. Living with a non-Christian is like....I feel like I'm voluntarily living in terrible sin. I'm periodically missing church cause she always has some excuse why she needs me at home and my patience is growing bitterly short with that too...

Not much different than my first husband's belief that he comes first and I should do absolutely everything he does and says... my former marriage was filled with stress, him stealing and lies, he was always stealing stuff from stores and that made it hard for me to go shopping, I had to get rides from others in the neighborhood or from someone at church because if he got caught stealing
and I was with him, I'd be charged also.

And having only one car didn't help, because according to him it was "his car"
not our car...so he controlled how often I was allowed to have the keys to "his car".
You may periodically miss attending meetings in the church building but it's possible to keep in fellowship, even if it's just meeting up with one or two christian guys from church for bible study and prayer...you can even text one another encouraging scripture, prayers etc.
Church be the people...for where 2 or 3 be gathered, the Lord is there too.
It's good to have christian support, if it's not in place before you marry...it may
take a bit more effort and time but do get up your own team of christian support.

If you home helping your wife to do whatever it is she needs you there for, make a point to set aside time for reading your Bible and praying...when you do miss taking part in corporate worship.

lastofall · Oct 24, 2017

[for me anyway] the two matter's cannot exist together: of course some or even many may say no to the question, yet the person is unbelieving if they commit such, and the Lord makes it clear that anyone that believes not is condemned.
Beside that many have a misunderstood meaning of the act, primarily because of the word "suicide" which was an invented word for the purpose of making the act sound clinical, and to avoid what it was previously called "self-murder", which by the way is still called such in many countries of other languages until now. Why? because that is exactly what the act is, that's why. As for concerning God's view, is not murder a sin? Yes of course; and the thing about this particular sin is that it is a sin that cannot be repented of.
As for hell: again for me anyway, the matter is between that person and God; if the person (perhaps) was in a state of confusion at that moment, then God knows it; but likewise, if the person was sober-minded willfully at that moment; then God know that also.
As for us, we do not know the thoughts and intentions of that person's heart at that moment, so therefore it is of none effect to guess at it.
As for salvation, one that is truly saved shall endure to the end according to the Lord Jesus Christ, and not according to us.

worldtravel633 · Oct 24, 2017

Martin Tom said:
It's a contradiction to say that -- Will you still go to hell if you're saved.
If you're "saved already", you wouldn't commit suicide.
If you commit suicide, you're not saved.

Strong words. This is for God to decide.

Kano Giovanni · Nov 1, 2017

Kit Sigmon said:
Not much different than my first husband's belief that he comes first and I should do absolutely everything he does and says... my former marriage was filled with stress, him stealing and lies, he was always stealing stuff from stores and that made it hard for me to go shopping, I had to get rides from others in the neighborhood or from someone at church because if he got caught stealing
and I was with him, I'd be charged also.

And having only one car didn't help, because according to him it was "his car"
not our car...so he controlled how often I was allowed to have the keys to "his car".
You may periodically miss attending meetings in the church building but it's possible to keep in fellowship, even if it's just meeting up with one or two christian guys from church for bible study and prayer...you can even text one another encouraging scripture, prayers etc.
Church be the people...for where 2 or 3 be gathered, the Lord is there too.
It's good to have christian support, if it's not in place before you marry...it may
take a bit more effort and time but do get up your own team of christian support.

If you home helping your wife to do whatever it is she needs you there for, make a point to set aside time for reading your Bible and praying...when you do miss taking part in corporate worship.

Yeah, I don't have any friends. Beyond my Family it's just me. Most people are stupid and intolerable with all their faith in the ways of the world...

Aldebaran · Nov 1, 2017

Kano Giovanni said:
Yeah, I don't have any friends. Beyond my Family it's just me. Most people are stupid and intolerable with all their faith in the ways of the world...

I know how that feels. My only social contact anymore is my Dad. I guess the only advice I can give you about that is something that I don't even do myself, which is to find a church to go to. It's about the only real shot at being around people who are of the same mind and spirit as you. As a second option, hang around this site. It helps in getting to understand people.

ESK · Nov 2, 2017

I've wondered about this and struggled with the question for some time. I found my mom hanging two years ago, and she was a devout christian, but was bipolar and went off her meds. I've also thought about ending my life, even before my mother's death. I think Christ would accept us, but maybe not.

Almost there · Nov 2, 2017

Kano Giovanni said:
Will you still go to hell if you're saved and commit suicide?

This was a difficult question for me when I was an advocate of ECT. Now, as a CI advocate, it's sorta simpler and less filled with spiritual baggage. I don't really know, but I would not be surprised to find out that this ultimate demonstration of lack of faith could be lights out - forever. i.e. you get exactly what you wanted.

Aldebaran · Nov 3, 2017

Almost there said:
This was a difficult question for me when I was an advocate of ECT. Now, as a CI advocate, it's sorta simpler and less filled with spiritual baggage. I don't really know, but I would not be surprised to find out that this ultimate demonstration of lack of faith could be lights out - forever. i.e. you get exactly what you wanted.

What is ECT and CI?

Almost there · Nov 3, 2017

Aldebaran said:
What is ECT and CI?

Eternal Conscious Torment
Conditional Immortality

Discussed here: Jewishnotgreek.com

Aldebaran · Nov 3, 2017

Almost there said:
Eternal Conscious Torment
Conditional Immortality

Discussed here: Jewishnotgreek.com

Aha! I never would have guessed.

Almost there · Nov 3, 2017

Aldebaran said:
Aha! I never would have guessed.

The internet has made it a huge controversy, in much the same way the invention of the printing press resulted in the reformation.

Aldebaran · Nov 3, 2017

Almost there said:
The internet has made it a huge controversy, in much the same way the invention of the printing press resulted in the reformation.

Yeah, I know. Since spending so much time on this site, I've had to question some of my views and things I was taught and thought I knew for sure. At least it keeps me thinking.

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