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The following is an excerpt from a book I'm reading on education. It's trying to answer the question "Why teach?" and the authors get into a discourse on the importance of the question: "why?". Consider this:

"'Why?' is nearly always the most critical of questions, yet it often remains unasked. We are impatient. We prefer to dive in with other questions, questions that strike us as being more relevant. 'How?' typically tops the list. The tyranny of the 'urgent' needs and demands of those we serve presses us to swift response. We feel a need to act and to do so now. It is not surprising then that books with titles or subtitles promising how-to solutions for... teachers and other(s) typically top the charts of best-selling...books. Perhaps it is a sign of the times.

How is certainly a critical question. We would be unwise to neglect it... But as critical as it is, it is not the first question. It must not be the first question. Why is the proper question with which to begin... 'He knows the 'why' for his existence, and will be able to bear almost any 'how.'"

Do you agree with this excerpt?
Have you given up on trying to answer the "why" of your life?
Have you settled with answering the "hows"?
If so, why?
 

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Why can only be asked to a certain degree, or else you'd be required to ask why about why, which would only cause your head to explode. Therefore, you need at some point to ask how about your why, because at some point the buck stops and the why just is.

Man.
 
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Why can only be asked to a certain degree, or else you'd be required to ask why about why, which would only cause your head to explode. Therefore, you need at some point to ask how about your why, because at some point the buck stops and the why just is.

Man.
No.
 
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The following is an excerpt from a book I'm reading on education. It's trying to answer the question "Why teach?" and the authors get into a discourse on the importance of the question: "why?". Consider this:

"'Why?' is nearly always the most critical of questions, yet it often remains unasked. We are impatient. We prefer to dive in with other questions, questions that strike us as being more relevant. 'How?' typically tops the list. The tyranny of the 'urgent' needs and demands of those we serve presses us to swift response. We feel a need to act and to do so now. It is not surprising then that books with titles or subtitles promising how-to solutions for... teachers and other(s) typically top the charts of best-selling...books. Perhaps it is a sign of the times.

How is certainly a critical question. We would be unwise to neglect it... But as critical as it is, it is not the first question. It must not be the first question. Why is the proper question with which to begin... 'He knows the 'why' for his existence, and will be able to bear almost any 'how.'"

Do you agree with this excerpt?
No.
1. "Why?" (unless coming with a clarification what sort of explanation is expected) is a question that often can´t be understood.
2. "Why"-questions are loaded questions. Just forming a sentence and turning it into a "why?" question does not necessarily result in a meaningful question.
Have you given up on trying to answer the "why" of your life?
What do you feel is the "why?" of my life?
Have you settled with answering the "hows"?
I´m always open to "Why?" questions when they are meaningful and not overly presumtious.
If so, why?

Why do you ask?
 
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Meet TillICollapse, the grumpy cat of Christian Forums. :p
lol you missed my set-up ...

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*** And do I really come off as a grumpy person ? *** :/
 
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The following is an excerpt from a book I'm reading on education. It's trying to answer the question "Why teach?" and the authors get into a discourse on the importance of the question: "why?". Consider this:

"'Why?' is nearly always the most critical of questions, yet it often remains unasked. We are impatient. We prefer to dive in with other questions, questions that strike us as being more relevant. 'How?' typically tops the list. The tyranny of the 'urgent' needs and demands of those we serve presses us to swift response. We feel a need to act and to do so now. It is not surprising then that books with titles or subtitles promising how-to solutions for... teachers and other(s) typically top the charts of best-selling...books. Perhaps it is a sign of the times.

How is certainly a critical question. We would be unwise to neglect it... But as critical as it is, it is not the first question. It must not be the first question. Why is the proper question with which to begin... 'He knows the 'why' for his existence, and will be able to bear almost any 'how.'"

Do you agree with this excerpt?
Have you given up on trying to answer the "why" of your life?
Have you settled with answering the "hows"?
If so, why?

I prefer to use a more exhaustive method of discovery which include who, what, where, when, and of course why. Why, alone, leaves me with too many unanswered questions. ( we can use how, as well )

Why can only be asked to a certain degree, or else you'd be required to ask why about why, which would only cause your head to explode. Therefore, you need at some point to ask how about your why, because at some point the buck stops and the why just is.

Man.

Yeah this is a problem and a work mate told me recntly about the 5 whys. It seems to be a decent method of interrogation for finding an acceptable burden of root cause, that Toyota adopted in vehicle forensics.

The technique was originally developed by Sakichi Toyoda and was used within the Toyota Motor Corporation during the evolution of its manufacturing methodologies. It is a critical component of problem-solving training, delivered as part of the induction into the Toyota Production System. The architect of the Toyota Production System, Taiichi Ohno, described the 5 Whys method as "the basis of Toyota's scientific approach . . . by repeating why five times, the nature of the problem as well as its solution becomes clear."[4] The tool has seen widespread use beyond Toyota, and is now used within Kaizen, lean manufacturing, and Six Sigma.

5Whys Apologies for Wiki :D
 
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I prefer to use a more exhaustive method of discovery which include who, what, where, when, and of course why. Why, alone, leaves me with too many unanswered questions. ( we can use how, as well )



Yeah this is a problem and a work mate told me recntly about the 5 whys. It seems to be a decent method of interrogation for finding an acceptable burden of root cause, that Toyota adopted in vehicle forensics.



5Whys Apologies for Wiki :D
What happens if one should reach ... the 6th why ? :)
 
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What happens if one should reach ... the 6th why ? :)

I think you know that the why's can continue indefinitely. :D The reason for 5 whys is to find an agreeable level of burden, where we find an acceptable conclusion.

ETZ As experiment we can see how Toyota achieved a seemigly more reliable vehicle than the market using this method. ( and cost effective method stopping at 5, I suppose )
 
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I think you know that the why's can continue indefinitely. :D
I was opening the door, hoping you'd say something awesome happened. Something like the news anchors head blowing up in Scanners lol ... I doubt I can link to a video haha :)

Lol

No, you don't come across as grumpy. :p
^_^
 
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No.
1. "Why?" (unless coming with a clarification what sort of explanation is expected) is a question that often can´t be understood.
2. "Why"-questions are loaded questions. Just forming a sentence and turning it into a "why?" question does not necessarily result in a meaningful question.

Here's a series of what seem like meaningful questions that begin with "why":

1. Why am I taking this job?
2. Why do I work in the first place?
3. Why am I buying this house?
4. Why am I marrying this person?
5. Why am I divorcing this person?
6. Why have children?
7. Why go to college?

Do those seem like senseless questions?

What do you feel is the "why?" of my life?

All of the above questions constitute the "whys" of your life.

Why do you ask?

I think that the authors are right. I think we're uncomfortable with "why" questions and much more comfortable with assuming the why and asking "how".
 
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Here's a series of what seem like meaningful questions that begin with "why":

1. Why am I taking this job?
2. Why do I work in the first place?
3. Why am I buying this house?
4. Why am I marrying this person?
5. Why am I divorcing this person?
6. Why have children?
7. Why go to college?

Do those seem like senseless questions?
Insofar as they all appear to clearly ask for my intentions/purposes, they aren´t examples of what I was talking about.



All of the above questions constitute the "whys" of your life.
Initially you said "the why" (not "whys") of my life, and I asked about that apparently singular "why".
But yes, of course I often ask myself for my intentions/purposes when premeditating my steps.



I think that the authors are right.
This answer doesn´t seem to match the question "Why do you ask?" :cool:
I think we're uncomfortable with "why" questions
Well, if you guys are uncomfortable with "why"-questions, who am I to say you are not.
Personally, I am uncomfortable only with certain "why?"-questions (the ones I talked about in my first response) - while I am completely fine with asking myself for my intentions and purposes (e.g. those questions you listed).
and much more comfortable with assuming the why and asking "how".
I´m not sure what you mean by "assuming the why" here. Could you explain it using one of the issues you listed?
 
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I was opening the door, hoping you'd say something awesome happened. Something like the news anchors head blowing up in Scanners lol ... I doubt I can link to a video haha :)

Ok then. If you commit to the 6th why when turning on the headlights while travelling at the speed of light , you will explode.
 
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Ok then. If you commit to the 6th why when turning on the headlights while travelling at the speed of light , you will explode.
I want to make a Back to the Future joke and reference a DeLorean here as well, but I'll put the mic down for the night :)
 
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Dear Tree of Life. You are right, WHY is a very important question, and it is asked so very seldom. Why are we here? for instance, we know that Adam and Eve disobeyed God and ate from the Tree of Knowledge. God wanted more from us, God is Love and God wants loving sons and daughters. Knowledge without Love is barren and empty. Jesus our Saviour had to come and show us what Love really is. Love covers a multitude of sins, and Paul tells us in 1) Corinthians 13: 13: " and now abides Faith, Hope and Love,
these three, but the greatest of these is Love."
In Matthew 22: 35-40: Jesus tells us: " The first and great Commandment is;
Love God with all our hearts, with all our souls, and with all our minds. The second is like it: Love our neighbour as we love ourselves." Verse 40 gives us a great truth: " On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." Matthew 7: 7-10: tells us: " ask and you shall receive," we ask God for Love and Joy and then thank God, and share all Love and Joy with our neighbour: all we know and all we meet, friends and not friends. We keep asking and receiving, then thank God and share all Love and Joy with our neighbour. God will see and approve and bless us, and the Holy Spirit will help and guide us. Jesus our Saviour will lead us all the way: JESUS IS THE WAY. The Bible tells us: " Repent and be Born Again," we have to give up our selfish wishes and wants and start Loving God and loving our neighbour
God is Love and God wants loving sons and daughters.
I say this with love, Tree of Life. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.
 
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When it comes to my participation on this site, "why" plays a dominant role in my motivation to be here.

Why? Because I am not so much interested in what someone believes or doesn't believe, but much more so in the "why" they believe or don't believe what they do and how they justify their position.

When you peel back the layers, it can get quite interesting.
 
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