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great post,I'll agree!!a1000smiles said:Yesterday I was listening to thehousefm.com and they have this segmant where they talk about the Christian martyrs past and present (OH man there are so many of them) and one story that caught my attention was the way Bartholomew died. Bartholomew was Jesus' own disciple so he would know FIRST HAND if Jesus has actually died and raised again or not. Yet, he went to a lot of places preaching the Gospal, when he was preaching in Armenia, the king's bro became Christian. Furious he commanded Bartholomew to worship their pagan God. When he refused to do so, the king had him be whipped and crucified. The whole time he called out Jesus' name until finally they had his head cut off. This story was so touching to me that I went and did a little more research on how the others died, I knew John was the only one who died of old age even though he was thrown in a pit of boiling oil and then exiled, and Peter demanded he be crucified upside down because he felt he was not worthy to die the same way his Saviour did. Here is an article I found. God Bless you. Have an AWESOME day! =D
The Martyrdom of the Apostles
by Grant R. Jeffrey (from his book "The Signature of God")
Some atheists have suggested that the disciples, during the decades following His death, simply invented their accounts of Jesus. These Bible critics say that the disciples, in an attempt to enhance His authority, then published the story that Jesus claimed to be God and was resurrected. Any fair-minded reader should consider the historical evidence. First, the apostles were continually threatened and pressured to deny their Lord during their ministry; especially as they faced torture and martyrdom. However, none of these men who spent time with Jesus chose to save their lives by denying their faith in Him. Consider this hypothetical situation: Suppose these men had conspired to form a new religion based on their imagination. How long would anyone continue to proclaim something they knew was a lie when faced with lengthy tortures and an inescapable, painful death? All they had to do to escape martyrdom was to admit they had concocted a lie and simply deny their faith and claims about Jesus as God. It defies both common sense and the evidence of history that anyone, let alone a group of twelve men, would persist in proclaiming a lie when they could walk away by admitting that it was a fraud.
Yet, history reveals that not one of these men, who knew Jesus personally, ever denied their testimony about Him despite the threat and reality of imminent death. This proves to any fair-minded observer that these men possessed an absolute unshakable personal knowledge about the truth of the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Each of the apostles were called upon to pay the ultimate price to prove their faith in Jesus, affirming with their life's blood that Jesus was the true Messiah, the Son of God, and the only hope of salvation for a sinful humanity.
Most of our information about the deaths of the apostles is derived from early church traditions. While tradition is unreliable as to small details, it very seldom contains outright inventions. Eusebius, the most important of the early church historians wrote his history of the early church in A.D. 325. He wrote, "The apostles and disciples of the Savior scattered over the whole world, preached the Gospel everywhere." The Church historian Schumacher researched the lives of the apostles and recounted the history of their martyrdoms.
Matthew suffered martyrdom in Ethiopia, killed by a sword wound.
Mark died in Alexandria, Egypt, after being dragged by horses through the streets until he was dead.
Luke was hanged in Greece as a result of his tremendous preaching to the lost.
John faced martyrdom when he was boiled in a huge basin of boiling oil during a wave of persecution in Rome. However, he was miraculously delivered from death. John was then sentenced to the mines on the prison island of Patmos. He wrote his prophetic Book of Revelation on Patmos. The apostle John was later freed and returned to serve as Bishop of Edessa in modern Turkey. He died as an old man, the only apostle to die peacefully.
Peter was crucified upside down on an x-shaped cross, according to church tradition because he told his tormentors that he felt unworthy to die in the same way that Jesus Christ had died.
James the Just, the leader of the church in Jerusalem, was thrown over a hundred feet down from the southeast pinnacle of the Temple when he refused to deny his faith in Christ. When they discovered that he survived the fall, his enemies beat James to death with a fuller's club. This was the same pinnacle where Satan had taken Jesus during the Temptation.
James the Greater, a son of Zebedee, was a fisherman by trade when Jesus called him to a lifetime of ministry. As a strong leader of the church, James was ultimately beheaded at Jerusalem. The Roman officer who guarded James watched amazed as James defended his faith at his trial. Later, the officer walked beside James to the place of execution. Overcome by conviction, he declared his new faith to the judge and knelt beside James to accept beheading as a Christian.
Bartholomew, also know as Nathanael, was a missionary to Asia. He witnessed to our Lord in present day Turkey. Bartholomew was martyred for his preaching in Armenia when he was flayed to death by a whip. (more info on him on top)
Andrew was crucified on an x-shaped cross in Patras, Greece. After being whipped severely by seven soldiers they tied his body to the cross with cords to prolong his agony. His followers reported that, when he was led toward the cross, Andrew saluted it in these words: "I have long desired and expected this happy hour. The cross has been consecrated by the body of Christ hanging on it." He continued to preach to his tormentors for two days until he expired.
The apostle Thomas was stabbed with a spear in India during one of his missionary trips to establish the church in the subcontinent. (In Tamil Nadu, Thomas Mountain)
Jude, the brother of Jesus, was killed with arrows when he refused to deny his faith in Christ.
Matthias, the apostle chosen to replace the traitor Judas Iscariot, was stoned and then beheaded.
Barnabas, one of the group of seventy disciples, wrote the Epistle of Barnabas. He preached throughout Italy and Cyprus. Barnabas was stoned to death at Salonica.
The apostle Paul was tortured and then beheaded by the evil Emperor Nero at Rome in A.D. 67. Paul endured a lengthy imprisonment which allowed him to write his many epistles to the churches he had formed throughout the Roman Empire. These letters, which taught many of the foundational doctrines of Christianity, form a large portion of the New Testament.
The details of the martyrdoms of the disciples and apostles are found in traditional early church sources. These traditions were recounted in the writings of the church fathers and the first official church history written by the historian Eusebius in A.D. 325. Although we can not at this time verify every detail historically, the universal belief of the early Christian writers was that each of the apostles had faced martyrdom faithfully without denying their faith in the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Reference: Jeffrey, Grant R., "The Signature of God", Frontier Research Publications, Inc. (1996), p.254-257 Grant Jeffrey's book "The Signature of God" can be ordered from
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Fares said:Thats one of the differences between Islam and christianity.
Muslims are ready to die and to kill for Allah.
Christians are ready to die but not kill for Jesus.
Or He never existed and the Bible is a series of lessons, much like Aesop's fables.Skaloop said:That he was not in fact dead when they put him in.
Fred PhelpsHowever, sometimes you find really zealotous Christians who act / think in a totally different way.
Did you just finish reading it? That's the third time you've mentioned that book. I'm actually intending to read it at some point, but I've got several others that I want to read as well.People, honestly read "The Case for Christ" Awesome book!
That's absurdly offensive. That's along the same lines as saying all Christians are protesting military funerals because Fred Phelps (admittedly a whack job) is doing so.Thats one of the differences between Islam and christianity.
Muslims are ready to die and to kill for Allah.
Christians are ready to die but not kill for Jesus.
HoustonHorn said:Did you just finish reading it? That's the third time you've mentioned that book. I'm actually intending to read it at some point, but I've got several others that I want to read as well.
Skaloop said:That he was not in fact dead when they put him in.
Skaloop said:That he was not in fact dead when they put him in.
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