WHY WATER BAPTISM WILL DISAPPEAR AND THEN REAPPEAR !!

[Dan Perez]

One of the FIRST TIME the Greek word BAPTISM appears to me is in 1 Cor 10:2 and reads , And all were BAPTIZED TOGETHER

unto MOSES in the CLOUD and in the SEA ! Since their were thousands to cross the RED SEA and with thousand EGYTIANS following

them , and the Greek WATER // HUDOR is NOT in the Greek text .

By the way , What does the CLOUD and the SEA , mean ??

# 2 And in the book of Acts 1:5 is written , FOR // HOTI , is a CONJUNCATION

# 3 John // IOANNES , is in the NOMINATIVE CASE , and in the SIGNULAR

# 4 TRULY // MEN , is a PARTICILE DISJUNCATIVE

# 5 BAPTIZED // BAPTIZO , is in the Greek , AORIST TENSE , in the INDICATIVE MOOD , means yu better bekeve it , in te SINGULAR

# 6 WITH WATER // HYDOR , in the DATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR , and in the NEUTER , meaning MALE and FEMALE

# 7 BUT // DE , is a ONJUNCATION PLEASE NOTICE THE BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

# 8 YE // HYMEIS , is a PERSONAL , POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in the NOMINATIVE CASE , in the PLURAL

# 9 SHALL BE BAPTIZED , is in the FUTURE TEN SE , PASSIVE VOICE , in the INDICATIVE MOOD , means you better belkeve it , PLURAL

and since it is in the Greek FUTURE TENSE it has not happened yet .

# 10 THE HOLY // in the DATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR and in the NEUTER

# 11 SPIRIT // PNEUMA , in the DATIVE CASE , in the SIGNULAR and in the NETER

# 12 NOT // OU , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICILE NEGATIVE

# 13 MANY DAYS // POLYS , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in te PLJRAL

# 14 HENCE // META , a PROPOSITION

These means WATER BAPTISM has moved on from WATER BAPTISM to HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM , as in Eph 4:5 which reads

ONE LORD , ONE FAITH , ONE // HEIS and ONE // HEIS , means ONE BAPTISM , during this AGE of GRACE and we are SAVED

By Rom 10: 9- 10 , period

But Baptism will reappear for Israel in Eze 36 :25 when Israel and Judah become ONE STICK in EZE 37:15-28 , and ISRAEL

will BE BORN AGAIN , PERIOD !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

One of the FIRST TIME the Greek word BAPTISM appears to me is in 1 Cor 10:2 and reads , And all were BAPTIZED TOGETHER

unto MOSES in the CLOUD and in the SEA ! Since their were thousands to cross the RED SEA and with thousand EGYTIANS following

them , and the Greek WATER // HUDOR is NOT in the Greek text .

By the way , What does the CLOUD and the SEA , mean ??

# 2 And in the book of Acts 1:5 is written , FOR // HOTI , is a CONJUNCATION

# 3 John // IOANNES , is in the NOMINATIVE CASE , and in the SIGNULAR

# 4 TRULY // MEN , is a PARTICILE DISJUNCATIVE

# 5 BAPTIZED // BAPTIZO , is in the Greek , AORIST TENSE , in the INDICATIVE MOOD , means yu better bekeve it , in te SINGULAR

# 6 WITH WATER // HYDOR , in the DATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR , and in the NEUTER , meaning MALE and FEMALE

# 7 BUT // DE , is a ONJUNCATION PLEASE NOTICE THE BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

# 8 YE // HYMEIS , is a PERSONAL , POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in the NOMINATIVE CASE , in the PLURAL

# 9 SHALL BE BAPTIZED , is in the FUTURE TEN SE , PASSIVE VOICE , in the INDICATIVE MOOD , means you better belkeve it , PLURAL

and since it is in the Greek FUTURE TENSE it has not happened yet .

# 10 THE HOLY // in the DATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR and in the NEUTER

# 11 SPIRIT // PNEUMA , in the DATIVE CASE , in the SIGNULAR and in the NETER

# 12 NOT // OU , is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICILE NEGATIVE

# 13 MANY DAYS // POLYS , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in te PLJRAL

# 14 HENCE // META , a PROPOSITION

These means WATER BAPTISM has moved on from WATER BAPTISM to HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM , as in Eph 4:5 which reads

ONE LORD , ONE FAITH , ONE // HEIS and ONE // HEIS , means ONE BAPTISM , during this AGE of GRACE and we are SAVED

By Rom 10: 9- 10 , period

But Baptism will reappear for Israel in Eze 36 :25 when Israel and Judah become ONE STICK in EZE 37:15-28 , and ISRAEL

will BE BORN AGAIN , PERIOD !!

dan p

The word "baptism" is in the bible 22 more times, after Matt 3.
Water doesn't need to be mentioned, as it is tacit (implied).

Let me ask you this, please...If water baptism is not necessary, how is the "old man" destroyed without it ? (Rom 6:3-6)

 

[Dan Perez]

The word "baptism" is in the bible 22 more times, after Matt 3.
Water doesn't need to be mentioned, as it is tacit (implied).

Let me ask you this, please...If water baptism is not necessary, how is the "old man" destroyed without it ? (Rom 6:3-6)

The word "baptism" is in the bible 22 more times, after Matt 3.
Water doesn't need to be mentioned, as it is tacit (implied).

Let me ask you this, please...If water baptism is not necessary, how is the "old man" destroyed without it ? (Rom 6:3-6)

And the Greek word BAPTISM in the NEW TESTAMENT is used 100 times , plus there are the Greek wrds , BAPTISMOS

BAPTO , and BAPTISTES .

And then I can do the same to anyone and just change any Greek word that I do not like , salvation or BORN
AGAIN or the Greek word SIN or the word CHRIST // CHRISTOS .

dan p





dan p

 

[bling]

New Christians may not tap into everything that is available to them to help them experience the transformation:

I do not know of any Christian group, who believe the water itself saves you, since all believe it is God who saves and God is not limited by water.

Water baptism is not a “requirement” for salvation, since God does the saving, but is something Christians get to do in order to help them and others.

I know that I needed everything God could provide to assure me of my conversion, both outwardly and mentally. God wants you to physically feel the experience of what is going on Spiritually.

You would like to add to your conversion a definite time place and physical experience, which God has provided for you.

Adult believers water immersion is to be a physical outward representation of what had or is happening spiritually in the person being baptized. It is mainly to help the individual being baptized to better grasp what is going on, but it can “witness” to others observing the baptism. It has the elements of going down under the water (burying the old man), placing your dependence in another; the person baptizing you (surrendering your life to God), being washed (having your sins washed away), rising out of the water (rising from the old dead body), and stepping forth out onto the earth (a new person). The person is walking out into the hugs of his new family. It is also a sign of your humility, since it is a humbling act anyone can simple allow someone to do to them (so not a work) and since humility has been shown in the accept of charity (God’s free gift of undeserving forgiveness) it should just support and add to the memory of that acceptance. To refuse Christian water baptism when it is readily available might mean you are not ready to handle other responsibility like having the indwelling Holy Spirit and you are hurting yourself.

Christian Baptism replaced John’s Baptism and not circumcision, since circumcision went on at the same time as John’s baptism and it is not in the Bible where, Jewish Christians cease circumcising their boy children after baptism became available. Circumcision was a physical visible daily reminder to all Jewish boys and men that they were a Jew. The indwelling Holy Spirit is our literal daily reminder that we are Christians. The indwelling Holy Spirit replaced circumcision and is for both men and women.

 

[Hoping2]

And the Greek word BAPTISM in the NEW TESTAMENT is used 100 times , plus there are the Greek wrds , BAPTISMOS

BAPTO , and BAPTISTES .

According to biblegateway.com, "baptism" is used 23 times.
All have the same definition in the Strong's Concordance.
#908, in the Greek.
Baptisma...Means baptism consisting of the processes of immersion, submersion, and emergence.

And then I can do the same to anyone and just change any Greek word that I do not like , salvation or BORN
AGAIN or the Greek word SIN or the word CHRIST // CHRISTOS .

As I have changed nothing, much less because I don't like it, to what are you referring ?
As to the question I asked earlier..."If water baptism is not necessary, how is the "old man" destroyed without it ? (Rom 6:3-6)

 

[Dan Perez]

According to biblegateway.com, "baptism" is used 23 times.
All have the same definition in the Strong's Concordance.
#908, in the Greek.
Baptisma...Means baptism consisting of the processes of immersion, submersion, and emergence.

As I have changed nothing, much less because I don't like it, to what are you referring ?
As to the question I asked earlier..."If water baptism is not necessary, how is the "old man" destroyed without it ? (Rom 6:3-6)

Do you KNOW how to check the GREEK TEXT ??

If yo can check Matt 3:7 and it says , that mny of the Pharisses and SADDUCESS come to ( JOHNS ) BAPTISMA ,

Notice the KJV says BAPTISM , but the GREEK TEXT says , BAPTISMA and is used 22 Tmes from MATT 3:7 through

Eph 4 :5 where it says , ONE LORD , ONE FAITH ONE // HEIS , BAPTISMA , and the ONE BAPTISMA is the HOLY SPIRIT

And in Rom 6: 4 reads , Therefore , we were buried together with HIM this BAPTISMA ( check the Greek TEXT and SEE )

And in Rom 6:3 says , OR are you IGNORANT , that as many as were BAPTIZED ( WHERE IS THE WATER // HYDOR )

into CHRIST JESUS , were BAPTIZED into HIS DEATH , how did that happen wthtout WATER ??

And the Greek word BAPTISMA is in the Greek text in 1 Peter 3:21 !!

dan p

 

[Hoping2]

Do you KNOW how to check the GREEK TEXT ??

If yo can check Matt 3:7 and it says , that mny of the Pharisses and SADDUCESS come to ( JOHNS ) BAPTISMA ,

Notice the KJV says BAPTISM , but the GREEK TEXT says , BAPTISMA and is used 22 Tmes from MATT 3:7 through

Eph 4 :5 where it says , ONE LORD , ONE FAITH ONE // HEIS , BAPTISMA , and the ONE BAPTISMA is the HOLY SPIRIT

And in Rom 6: 4 reads , Therefore , we were buried together with HIM this BAPTISMA ( check the Greek TEXT and SEE )

And in Rom 6:3 says , OR are you IGNORANT , that as many as were BAPTIZED ( WHERE IS THE WATER // HYDOR )

into CHRIST JESUS , were BAPTIZED into HIS DEATH , how did that happen wthtout WATER ??

And the Greek word BAPTISMA is in the Greek text in 1 Peter 3:21 !!

dan p

I am not so enthralled with Greek, that I miss the English.
Water baptism into Christ, and into His death and burial, is how we are "inserted" into Christ.
It is how we are buried with Him, and how we raised with Him to walk in newness of life.
If, as you seem to suppose, baptism is to be done away with, how can a man be put into Christ, or born again ?