Carl Emerson
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They harvested before they ate. Not sure how you can eat without first picking...
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They were not breaking the Sabbath .... it is not wrong to eat on the Sabbath.
From Adam and Eve people are saved the Same way through faith (believing) in the promises of God to come (Jesus)And how are people saved under the OLD COVENANT ?
Harvesting entails gathering crops when they have matured .... in bulk ...most or the entire crop is reaped when it is ready.They harvested before they ate. Not sure how you can eat without first picking...
Harvesting is seasonal .... bringing in crops in bulk (to sell, trade and/or store) "Picking a few edible plants/fruit etc. and eating them is not harvesting" .... ask any farmer.They harvested before they ate. Not sure how you can eat without first picking...
If you pick some strawberries and eat a few that is NOT harvesting ... if you pick a bunch of them and sell them or trade them .... that is harvesting.
There is no altar, the temple has been torn down. The Rabbi now just explains the meaning of the sacrifices. Which they were supposed to be doing all along. God makes it very clear that the sacrifice or religious ceremony does not please Him if people do not understand the meaning and how they applies to our lives.13 of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
This is the difference between being a food gather and a food producer. You have to harvest the plant before the seeds fall off and the wind distributes them. We are growing wild plants right now. Even when they are dead my wife will leave them alone until they have reseeded themselves.Harvesting is seasonal .... bringing in crops in bulk (to sell, trade and/or store) "Picking a few edible plants/fruit etc. and eating them is not harvesting" .... ask any farmer.
That's the point .... the Pharisees had made up their own rules about the Sabbath and attempting to hold Jesus and the disciples to THEIR rules. Jesus was correcting them on that.How then do you account for Jesus saying this in Mathew 12 ???
1At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them. 2When the Pharisees saw this, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”
3Jesus replied, “Have you not read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread, which was not lawful for them to eat, but only for the priests.
5Or haven’t you read in the Law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple break the Sabbath and yet are innocent? 6But I tell you that something greater than the temple is here.
7If only you had known the meaning of ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent. 8For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”
Jesus Heals on the Sabbath
(Mark 3:1–6; Luke 6:6–11)
9Moving on from there, Jesus entered their synagogue, 10and a man with a withered hand was there. In order to accuse Jesus, they asked Him, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”
11He replied, “If one of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will he not take hold of it and lift it out? 12How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”
13Then Jesus said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” So he stretched it out, and it was restored to full use, just like the other. 14But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus.
Yes, and they were wrong .... that's why Jesus corrected them.The religious leaders of the day - experts in the Law - thought it was...
The priests were allowed to break the Sabbath and yet innocent because they were required to do priestly work.
There is no altar, the temple has been torn down. The Rabbi now just explains the meaning of the sacrifices. Which they were supposed to be doing all along. God makes it very clear that the sacrifice or religious ceremony does not please Him if people do not understand the meaning and how they applies to our lives.
For example. They told to burn the fat out of the food. They were not supposed to eat the fat. The sons of one of the priests got in trouble for that. They were eating the fat before it got cooked out of the food. Now the doctors tell us that the fat in the meat clogs our arteries and is a leading cause of death. Do to coronary heart disease. Dr Ornish has done a lot of research on this. Diet and exercise cures a lot of different diseases.
Mcdonald's maybe a leading cause of death. Fast food is often criticized for being high in calories, unhealthy fats, sugars, sodium, and lacking in essential nutrients. Overconsumption of such foods has been linked to various health problems, including obesity, heart disease, type 2 diabetes, and other diet-related conditions.
Jesus did came to FULFIL , but they KILLED HIM and Israel has been SET ASIDE as Acts 28:26, 27 , 28 and Isa 6:1-13 says , and there many other verses that say the same hing >For me, it's about what is actually written, especially given the warnings of the Christ of the Bible regarding "many" deceivers who come in Christ's Name. For instance, in God's promise of a New Covenant, there is nowhere that HE mentions or even implies that His Laws are abolished or removed in the New Covenant. It's the exact opposite if you actually read what He said. Yes, there are "many" who come in Christ's Name that preach they are abolished, and they have convinced "many" of the same thing. But the God who created His New Covenant, should be the one, in my view, to define it. And His People will listen to HIM, and not the "other voice" in the Garden. I hope you might consider questioning and "Testing" the spirits of those "many" voices in this world God placed us in, that the Jesus of the Bible warned about.
Regarding the place in the New Testament that says the "LAW" Changed, I will post what is actually written, and am free and eager to discuss this with you as well, if you are interested.
Heb. 7: 5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive "the office of the priesthood", have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:
6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.
So who received Tithes of Abraham? Levite Priests? Or Melchizedek?
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the "priesthood being changed", there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
So then, what was the change? The 10 Commandments God gave Moses, abolished? Love the Lord your God with all your might, anothe Law God gave Moses? Love your neighbor as yourself, another Law God gave Moses, and "ALL" that hangs on these two Greatest Commandments that God gave Moses?
Why don't we continue reading and let the Hebrews author tell us exactly what LAW was changed.
13 For he of whom these things are spoken (Jesus, of the Bible) pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
So then, doesn't the Bible explain exactly what LAW was affected, which was the LAW regarding who could receive the Priesthood? And given the Christ was from the tribe of Judah, and not Levi, it facilitated by necessity, as change in the LAW regarding who could become God's Priest.
Was this "Change" not prophesied about in the Law and Prophets? "The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek."
Micah 5: 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Didn't the Faithful know of, and were waiting for this same Christ's arrival?
Luke 1: 5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. 6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying, 68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people, 69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; (From the Tribe of Judah)
It's a fascinating study and there are lots more scriptures foretelling of the coming New Priesthood Covenant, brought about because Levi corrupted the Priesthood Covenant God gave him. (Mal. 2)
Regarding your statement, "we are no longer under the Law of Moses". Wasn't it only those who rejected God's Law that were "under the law"? And didn't Jesus say to "Repent" from rejecting God's Law, and if we did, HE would erase the sins we committed? But if I continue to reject God's Laws, do I not bring myself back under the law, that being dead in which I was held? Consider what Paul actually teaches here.
Rom. 6: 15 What then? shall we sin, (Transgress God's Law) because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. That means NO!, Yes? Why would Paul say this?
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Yes, there are "many" who come in Christ's name who teach that Jesus came to destroy God's Laws and replace them with His Own.
But the Jesus of the Bible, said not to Even "THINK" such a thing.
Matt. 5: 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Something to think about.
The Royal Priesthood is a metaphor for building up and maintaining our spiritual temple.Same applies to Jesus and to us...
9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvellous light.
Jesus did came to FULFIL ,
but they KILLED HIM and Israel has been SET ASIDE as Acts 28:26, 27 , 28
Some of the benefits I've experienced from the carnivore diet, and living in line with and in harmony with all God's Word.
Actually for over ten years now the evidence is growing of the benefits of the carnivore diet - beef with the good fat, no pork.The tricky part is that although there is a growing awareness of the benefits of eating less meat, Romans 14 forbids us from causing a brother or sister to be judged about it.
The tricky part is that although there is a growing awareness of the benefits of eating less meat, Romans 14 forbids us from causing a brother or sister to be judged about it.
I wondered for years about that also, without seeking an answer, not needing one, and then Yahweh provided the answer simply through a child of His: harvesting, which was prohibited on Shabbat, involved more than just picking a little to eat - it involved picking enough to have for later to eat, and included if not for one's self, picking to sell or trade....They harvested before they ate. Not sure how you can eat without first picking...
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