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The order of malki-tzedek is from shem(a) to avraham.It's not just about the fall of the Jews. A high priest must be a Levi (who is a Jew), who acts as a mediator between God and the Jews. He enters the most holy place once every year to offer the blood sacrifice for the atonement of the sins committed by the Jews.
Psalm 110:4 (NIV2011)
The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.”
The parallel is, Melchizedek is not a Levi, he's not even a Jew. Jesus is the forever priest (in the order of Melchizedek who is not a Levi but much prior to Levi himself was born) acting as the mediator between God and humans (not just the Jews). He's offered as a Lamb for the atonement of sins committed by humans.
The New Covenant is thus not just a upgraded covenant covering the Jews, it is rather a covenant for all mankind.
Yes, timeless as the moral instructions which were before Moses were retained in Moses law.The old covenant was/is replaced by the new one that was instituted through Jesus. No doubt many of us would agree on that
However, the moral instructions and requirements under the old covenant have been brought forward into the new, they are timeless.
Yes, timeless as the moral instructions which were before Moses were retained in Moses law.
Le 18:26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
Le 18:27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled
Le 18:29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
De 18:9 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
De 18:12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
Because Moses interceded on behalf of The Israelites, that God not be blasphemed in the eyes of the nations.But ralliann,
They didn't refrain from committing these abominations. They rejected God's Instruction and created an image of God in the likeness of something on earth, and they worshiped that image, created High Days in worship of that image, just as the nations surrounding them did. They broke the Covenant ralliann.
Ex. 32:7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
9 And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:
10 Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: (As I promised in the Covenant I made with them) and I will make of thee a great nation.
So did God "cut them off" from being His Children as the covenant He shared with them said?
No sir, 3 thousand were destroyed, but God saved some of them alive.
Deut 5:2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
But God said if they rejected His Judgments HE would cut them off. So why are they still alive on this day in Duet? You just posted God's covenant where HE said He would "cut them off" if they worshiped as the nations around them worshiped. WHY ARE THEY STILL ALIVE IN DUET. 5?
God already foretold the future Judgement of the nations.They are still alive because God "ADDED" a Law on Mt. Sinai, a "Covenant with Levi" on Israel's behalf, which provided for the "ATONEMENT" of their transgressions, until the Lamb of God, or the "SEED" as Paul calls it, should come.
Law increased as it was always by God's judgement on the nations that the land was to be possessed.
the earthly inheritance under the Sinai covenant did not need to be changed. It was already full in Abraham.They were "alive" in Duet 5, not because they obeyed the covenant you posted above, but because of the Levitical Priesthood God "ADDED" to that Covenant, which provided atonement for them. A Law their father Abraham didn't have.
30 And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the LORD; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin.
It was this "Covenant" that the Creator of the New Covenant changed. Read it for yourself in Jer. 31.
I think you are missing somethings.This is Biblical Fact. The scriptures clearly show this. But in modern religion, this important part of the "Law" is omitted. This is what the Mainstream Preachers of Jesus time did. They "Omitted" whole portions of God's instruction, and crated their own. You are trying to teach about God as well, but you are omitting important Biblical Truths. This is why Jesus said "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by Every Word which proceeds from God".
For those children of Abraham who had the Faith of Abraham, like Caleb and Joshua, Rahab and Zecharias, and the perfect example, Jesus the Christ Himself. They became our examples of Faithful kings and priests in God's Kingdom.
Heb. 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
It was the Levitical Priesthood Covenant given to Levi that was changed, that was corrupted by the very Levites God placed to administer in the Priest's office. At least according to the Word of God which became Flesh. How can a man know enough to speak about God's New Covenant, when they refuse to accept the truth about the old one?
Because Moses interceded on behalf of The Israelites, that God not be blasphemed in the eyes of the nations.
God already foretold the future Judgement of the nations.
13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.
16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
Law increased as it was always by God's judgement on the nations that the land was to be possessed.
Because God is the Judge of all the earth as Abraham knew him. The God of all Men.
Ge 18:25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
the earthly inheritance under the Sinai covenant did not need to be changed. It was already full in Abraham.
Ga 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
I think you are missing somethings.
Ro 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Ro 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
The fourth generation was given the task of inheritance by God's judgement on the nations being dispossessed for their fullness of sin.
If this be true, and it is because Paul taught it so,,, what was going on with Sodom And Gomorrah? If it was not an imputation of sin by the law then what was it based upon? Read about that, and see what you might see.
The lamb slain from the foundation of the earthFirst, thank you for this response and the question at the end. A discussion about scriptures is why I came here in the first place. Thank You.
Yes, Moses interceded on their behalf? So did God take Moses life to pay for their transgression? He had already given them HIS definition of sin, the consequences of rejecting them (Being cut off) on Mt. Sinai.
In the case of "Transgressions" or as it is also known, "SIN", what did God do to cleanse them? What did God set in place for the atonement of sins that Abraham didn't have?
This is the for the man subject to the Sinai covenant. The inheritance of the landIf a man sins, what Did God tell them, through Moses, to Do? Did God say "If a man sins he shall Love the Lord his God with all his might," and his sins are forgiven? Did God say, "if a man sins he shall love his neighbor as himself", and his sins are forgiven?
Yet Jesus was the lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world. The law of Moses was 430 years afterNo. God created a Priesthood Covenant, and gave it specifically to the Tribe of Levi, on Israel's behalf, who God Himself separated from the other 11 tribes of Israel. This Priesthood was given for the exclusive purpose of administering God's Instructions, and for performing sacrificial "works" for the atonement of sins, until the prophesied "Lamb of God" should come.
From Moses to Jesus, there was no other way, by law, for sins to be atoned for.
How many righteous were left in the city? Not even ten. Yet the judge of all the earth, the God of all men saidHow can I, or what would be the reason, for me to omit this Biblical Truth from a discussion about the Covenant that the Christ promised to change in Jer. 31? Given that the promised new covenant dealt with only 2 things. #1. How God's Laws are administered. #2. How the sins of God's People are forgiven.
Ga 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Because it has to do with the promises made to Abraham concerning the nations.Yes, God foretold the judgments of the nations. What does that have to do with God's Covenant with Levi to provide for the justification of His People who had sinned?
By their faith, it was his law from Adam on.How did God judge between the righteous and the wicked? Why was Noah and Abraham considered just, while the nations of the world were not?
It has to do with the promises made to Abraham.And what does this have to do with the Priesthood Law God set up with Levi on Israel's behalf, to atone for their sins? A Law that neither Noah nor Abraham had.
The differences between the imputation of sin by the law which was 430 years after Abraham and God being the avenger of blood before that time as the Judge of all the earth.Yes, it is written Abraham believed God. So lets look at what happened then.
Gen. 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.
So Abraham believed God. But the men of Sodom didn't believe God.
Gen. 13:13 But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.
I'm not sure the point you are trying to make here?
by having no faith, like Adam. God did not fear what the punishment God spoke and ate against Gods command.Well, let me ask you a question here then. If sin is defined by God as Transgression of His Law, then how can sin be in the world before the Law?
Gen. 13:13 But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.
Paul can't be talking about God's Laws, Statutes, Judgments and Commandments Abraham obeyed and Sodom disobeyed which defined sin.
The lamb slain from the foundation of the earth
Christ and his priesthood was prior to and before the Levitical priesthood in promise to our father Abraham. The nations are promised to Abraham. This is not disannulled at SinaiIt's not just about the fall of the Jews. A high priest must be a Levi (who is a Jew), who acts as a mediator between God and the Jews. He enters the most holy place once every year to offer the blood sacrifice for the atonement of the sins committed by the Jews.
Psalm 110:4 (NIV2011)
The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.”
The parallel is, Melchizedek is not a Levi, he's not even a Jew. Jesus is the forever priest (in the order of Melchizedek who is not a Levi but much prior to Levi himself was born) acting as the mediator between God and humans (not just the Jews). He's offered as a Lamb for the atonement of sins committed by humans.
The New Covenant is thus not just a upgraded covenant covering the Jews, it is rather a covenant for all mankind.
It's not just about the fall of the Jews. A high priest must be a Levi (who is a Jew), who acts as a mediator between God and the Jews. He enters the most holy place once every year to offer the blood sacrifice for the atonement of the sins committed by the Jews.
Psalm 110:4 (NIV2011)
The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.”
The parallel is, Melchizedek is not a Levi, he's not even a Jew. Jesus is the forever priest (in the order of Melchizedek who is not a Levi but much prior to Levi himself was born) acting as the mediator between God and humans (not just the Jews). He's offered as a Lamb for the atonement of sins committed by humans.
The New Covenant is thus not just a upgraded covenant covering the Jews, it is rather a covenant for all mankind.
Indeed. The New Testament has a for more spiritual meaning while the OT only had a physical one. See circumcision.The point of the OP was to show what the Scriptures say changed and why. As it turns out, it wasn't God's Commandments, Statutes, or Laws that caused the problem. It wasn't the Priesthood "Shadow" that caused the problems. It was religious men who decided to Judge God's Way as incomplete, and infect it with their own mind and thoughts.
It sounds like you may be in agreement. But i want to make sure I am understanding what you are saying. Jesus is the exact replica of the Temple, HE is the perfect result of the Priesthood that Moses gave Levi.
Heb. 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
Levi was supposed to become this High Priest.
Mal 2:5 My covenant was with him of life and peace; and I gave them to him for the fear wherewith he feared me, and was afraid before my name. 6 The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity. 7 For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.
But the sons of Levi turned aside.
8 But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.
The temple was always supposed to be the mind of man, not piles of wood and stone. The Blood was always supposed to be the Blood of the prophesied Christ, not Bulls. The Alter that His Blood ( the life of Jesus) was sprinkled on was always supposed to be man's heart, not stone. Some knew this truth like Zecharias and Simeon, who didn't live by the religious traditions of men, but obeyed God's Word from the heart, as it was supposed to be. That is why, in my view, they knew the Christ when HE came, but the mainstream preachers of that time did not.
There was never a distinction between people and God made by the God of the Bible. The "partition" that existed between God and Gentiles was placed there by a corrupt Priesthood, not God. If you were to examine the Law and Prophets, you would find God made provisions for all people to come to HIM. It was the "Shepherds" who had "departed out of the way", that Paul called the "Circumcision", who were teaching for doctrines the Commandments of men, that created the partition, not Gods Laws. This is important to understand, as the "preachers" of our time do not teach this truth.
This is how it was supposed to be from the beginning. This was not a New Testament teaching, but the purpose of leaving Egypt (symbolic of sin) in the first place.
Ex. 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
Paul was simply fulfilling the Prophesies of Isaiah regarding those Disciples of Christ.
Is. 58:12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
This is the Gospel of Christ.
Every Commandment given by God to His People hangs on these two Commandments. You can't "love God" by rejecting His Commandments, and you can't "love one another" by teaching them "rudiments of the world and traditions of men". This is why it is important to listen to Jesus when He said He didn't come to destroy the Law and Prophets. In fact, HE said "don't even think" HE came to destroy the Law and Prophets. Of course not, they are the Word's which show us how and gives us examples of these Two Greatest Commandments. Without God's guidance, we will do just as the corrupt Priests did, and create our own images of God, our own High Days, our own religion.
Actually the entire religious system of the world has fallen back to the "old system", rather, they never left it in the first place. They still have huge temples made of piles of wood and stone. They have Priests who promote ancient religious traditions of men, and not the God of the Bible. They have their own "feasts unto the Lord", their own "images of God", and have rejected and polluted the Feasts of the Christ. They still perform ritual cleansing which must be done by man appointed preachers who come in God's Name.
The Priesthood was changed because of these very things in the first place. It's not supposed to be that way.
Jer. 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
1 Peter 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
8A nd a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Sorry so long, thanks for the great reply. I look forward to your your thoughts and input.
Even Circumcision was always supposed to be of the heart, God Himself said so in the Law and Prophets. God was never interested in the lose skin on a man’s penis, but a change in the heart.Indeed. The New Testament has a for more spiritual meaning while the OT only had a physical one. See circumcision.
Yes, I agree. I also did not state it ever saved. But it was commanded at the time of the physical Israel. Also taught in the Book of Genesis. Do we agree that the NT is more spiritual than the OT was? See adultery.Even Circumcision was always supposed to be of the heart, God Himself said so in the Law and Prophets. God was never interested in the lose skin on a man’s penis, but a change in the heart.
Think about that for a minute.
At one point it however INDEED was the flesh!Even Circumcision was always supposed to be of the heart, God Himself said so in the Law and Prophets. God was never interested in the lose skin on a man’s penis, but a change in the heart.
Think about that for a minute.
This order is not according to Genealogy, or carnal elements of commands.The order of malki-tzedek is from shem(a) to avraham.
Then further to all the children of a promise.
Yes, a sign of covenant made with Abraham........At one point it however INDEED was the flesh!
And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. Genesis 17:11
As I stated, not for salvation, but it was still commanded.
The carnal commands indeed have been disanulled in the new covenant. Which is inclusive of circumcision.Even Circumcision was always supposed to be of the heart, God Himself said so in the Law and Prophets. God was never interested in the lose skin on a man’s penis, but a change in the heart.
Think about that for a minute.
Amen.Yes, a sign of covenant made with Abraham........
The carnal commands indeed have been disanulled in the new covenant. Which is inclusive of circumcision.
Heb 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
The order of Melchizedek was not/is not according to the carnal ordinances.
But so far, you have mad several religious statements, like sins were not taken away, but only covered, and when I show Gods Word which contradicts this popular religious theory taught by the religions of this world, you don’t even acknowledge them.Yes, I agree. I also did not state it ever saved. But it was commanded at the time of the physical Israel. Also taught in the Book of Genesis. Do we agree that the NT is more spiritual than the OT was? See adultery.
At one point it however INDEED was the flesh!
And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. Genesis 17:11
As I stated, not for salvation, but it was still commanded.
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