Why There Will Be No Third Temple!!!

ebedmelech said:

That declaration tells us that God was no longer dwelling in physical temples!

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Are you sure that you are not talking about a physical (something you can see) temple here on earth?

Do you consider the temple in heaven a physical temple, something a person in heaven could see? And is it still there?


Doug

ebedmelech said:

Yes you are...ever read in Peter you are a living stone being built into God's temple? Do you think Peter says that to be cute? That's the reality brother!

But you also didn't provide an answer Doug...where is the third temple from the mouth of Jesus or the apostles???

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The third temple is implied because in Matthew 23, Jesus said that their house (second temple) would be left desolate.

Then in Matthew 24:14-15, after the gospel has been preached in all the world a witness unto all nations, then the end would come - which will be marked by the abomination standing in the holy place, which has to be a third temple.


Doug

hiscosmicgoldfish said:

they'd have to bulldoze the dome of the rock.. 'taint gonna happen. no way jose, they don't even let any non muslims up on the temple mount.

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Don't need to go on the temple mount - God could open up that mountain and swallow that Dome in an instant. And it just may happen.

SharonL said:

Don't need to go on the temple mount - God could open up that mountain and swallow that Dome in an instant. And it just may happen.

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Sharon, I would think something that dramatic would be spoken about in bible prophecy somewhere. Can't we just deal with bulldozers?


Doug

I don't see it happening ever but especially not in time for Marantha's tribulation which started March 22.

ebedmelech said:

You just can't make the spiritual transition Doug. YES, the temple in heaven is a person...THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and His church!!!

He is what's in view in Rev 11:
19 And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm.

Do you not realize this is when Christ made the ultimate sacrifice??? It opened heaven to God's people, who are His temple. The "ask of the covenant" is representative of Jesus, He is all that!

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But as instructed by God, Moses built the earthly tabernacle on a pattern of the heavenly - so that means there is a physical temple in heaven with a holy area and a holy of holies area. Does that temple in heaven no longer exist?


Doug

ebedmelech said:

No it doesn't. What do you think "NOT MADE WITH HANDS" means?

Hebrews 9:11
11 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation;

How long before you accept that?

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"No made with hands" refers to something that men build. NOT of this
creation is not on this created earth. The more perfect tabernacle is in heaven, where Jesus went into the temple and sat at God's right hand.

The temple in heaven that the tent tabernacle was patterned after was never made with hands, but had a holy area and holy of holies area - going by the pattern. What is your bible verses that say that temple in heaven was destroyed?


Doug

Douggg said:

After Gog/Magog there will be no Muslim presence on the temple mount. The Dome of the Rock will be a vacated structure that can be demolished in a couple of days.

Gog/Magog ends Islam.


Doug

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it's a nice building, maybe they could move it, convert it into a church, put it somewhere in the uk perhaps.

PreachingChristCrucified said:

I don't see it happening ever but especially not in time for Marantha's tribulation which started March 22.

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no, nor my tribulation starting march 22.. not enough time, no need, too obvious to happen the same again as Antiochus, except with Obama. how would Obama (thanks for capitalising Obama for me spellchecker, he is important after all).. how would Obama defile the third temple.. what would he be doing in a jewish temple? silly idea. but that's why they want the third temple.. the Christians of that ilk.

Douggg said:

Sharon, I would think something that dramatic would be spoken about in bible prophecy somewhere. Can't we just deal with bulldozers?


Doug

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I was really only joking about an earthquake to swallow the Dome of the Rock - but thought I would do a little research. Actually there is a lot of research dealing with the fault line under the Dome of the Rock. Here is one I thought was interesting.

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There is a fault line running from East to West through the Mt. of Olives and the Temple area to the Mediterranean Sea. When King Hussein of Jordan had the Intercontinental Hotel built on the Mt. of Olives in 1964, engineers discovered the fault line running through the original construction site, which was directly East of the Temple Mount. They relocated the site to the south, desecrating hundreds of Jewish graves in the process, and built the hotel there. Today it’s called the Seven Arches Hotel.

If you put Ezekiel 47 and Zechariah 14 together you can see that on the day of the Lord’s return a massive earthquake will split the Mt. of Olives in two allowing water from the Mediterranean to run to the Dead Sea after being mixed with water that flows from under the south side of the Temple. This tells us two things. First, that the next Temple will be built north of the Current Temple Mount, and second that the current Temple mount, including the al Aksa mosque and the Dome of the Rock, will wind up at the bottom of the new river. In Rev. 22 this river is called the River of the Water of Life because it brings life to the Dead Sea and because the trees that line it have leaves with healing power.
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GraceThruFaith

Just google fault line under Dome of the Rock or earthquake in Jerusalem, there is lots of info there - interesting.

Douggg said:

The third temple is implied because in Matthew 23, Jesus said that their house (second temple) would be left desolate.

Then in Matthew 24:14-15, after the gospel has been preached in all the world a witness unto all nations, then the end would come - which will be marked by the abomination standing in the holy place, which has to be a third temple.


Doug

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If you want my opinion, I'd say the Dome of the Rock - holy structure for ISLAMISM - is the "abomination standing in the holy place."

This spot was literally the holiest place on all the earth, said in some circles to be the place where Garden of Eden once was....where Abraham brought his son onto the mount to offer a sacrifice...you get the idea.

the dome of the rock isn't the abomination. Jesus warned people, when you see the abomination that causes desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet .. let the reader understand..

the dome of the rock took a long time to build.

the abomination is something that happens in the latter days.

Douggg said:

The third temple as far as bible prophecy goes will be a earthly temple of stone and mortar.

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Except that there is no third temple in Bible prophecy.

PreachingChristCrucified said:

That is my understanding as well.

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And you may well be correct.

Praise Be to Jesus
Marantha

ebedmelech said:

The point Doug, is give me ONE PLACE where Jesus or the apostles say there will be a third temple...YOU CAN'T!!!

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ebedmelech said:

You will find no significance of a physical temple from Jesus nor the apostles! There is nothing of the building of a third temple...NOTHING!!!
Why?

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ebedmelech said:

But you also didn't provide an answer Doug...where is the third temple from the mouth of Jesus or the apostles???

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Here is the root cause of your error. You dismiss any Old Testament prophecy that was not explicitly repeated in the New Testament, completely forgetting that “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.” – 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (NKJV) Keep in mind that when this was written, almost the only scriptures that they had were the Old Testament scriptures.

God has repeatedly stressed that every word that proceeds from his mouth is important. He explicitly said this in Deuteronomy 8:3, where He said “that man shall not live by bread alone; but man lives by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the LORD.” He considered this sufficiently important that He repeated it twice, in Matthew 4:4 and in Luke 4:4. Jesus again stressed this in Matthew 5:18 when He said, “for assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.”

This principle is particularly stressed in regard to the Old testament prophecies in 2 Peter 1:19, where we read, “And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.”

You are using this false test as an excuse to dismiss everyting God said in the Old Testament, thus “making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do." – Mark 7:13 (NKJV) This is a very serious serious error. Jesus charge them with holding traditions that made the word of God of no effect.

You cannot find even one scripture anywhere that even suggests that there will not be a future temple. So in stoutly declaring that there will not be one you are adding to his word, and He said, “Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.” – Proverbs 30:6 But you are not only adding to his words when you do this, you are taking away from them when you deny the truth of Ezekiel’s declarations that there will be one, just as you deny the truth of the very, very many scriptures that explicitly say Israel will again be restored to her land. In so doing, you are exposing yourself to the warning of Revelation 22:18-19, “For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”

Biblewriter said:

You cannot find even one scripture anywhere that even suggests that there will not be a future temple.

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Except maybe the entire letter to the Hebrews.

The "third temple" is a contrivance created by people who have (probably willfully) misunderstood our Lord's Olivet Discourse so that it didn't have any meaning to those to whom He was speaking.