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He has already revealed this to us, whose fault is it that Creationists misinterpret this revelation.holdon said:
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He has already revealed this to us, whose fault is it that Creationists misinterpret this revelation.holdon said:What does God say about "age of the earth", "origin of species", "relative masses of the elements"?
He has already revealed this to us, whose fault is it that Creationists misinterpret this revelation.
Why do you think Creationists misinterpret this revelation?
If you answer my questions.....
We should look at the Bible for the foundation of our beliefs. This does not exclude looking at answers that might help us to understand the universe around us. We should be well aware that whatever belief system we decide to adhere to, will influence our views and opinions. Even influence our observations to the extend that we may not be able to know what caused our observations to look as they do to us. In other words our subjective mindset will determine our scientific endeavors.
I continue to be shocked at how many Creationists advocate post-modernism.
Umm, no. Do you actually know what post-modernism is? Or are you just using it as a catch-all phrase for whatever you see as being unbiblical?livingword26 said:Thats almost funny. Evolution, theistic or otherwise, is the root of post modernism, the beginning of the alteration of the truth of the bible.
Thats almost funny. Evolution, theistic or otherwise, is the root of post modernism, the beginning of the alteration of the truth of the bible.
So post-modernism and biblical innerancy work quite well together? Again, do you know what post-modernism actually is?busterdog said:Otherwise, the concept works quite well for those who advocate an inerrant word.
So post-modernism and boblical innerancy work quite well together? Again, do you know what post-modernism actually is?
I continue to be shocked at how many Creationists advocate post-modernism.
(bold mine)I don't care what label you want to stick onto those who you don't agree with. You're absolutely right in your own eyes.
A lot better than you. In fact, I am much smarter and more educated than you.
Sorry for returning explicit insults... {snip typical Creationist persecution MO}
A lot better than you. In fact, I am much smarter and more educated than you.
Sorry for returning explicit insults for your implicit insults. At least I can demonstrate that neither type of insult advances the discusion. Since you weren't getting it otherwise, I wasn't sure what else to do but to continue with overtly gratuitous statements.
Time to recalibrate your meter then. But by what standard would you do that anyway?(bold mine)
My irony meter explodeth.
Where did I claim this?On the one hand you claim to be the sole posessors of truth, and on the other you claim that one can "interpret" mountains to be 4,000 years old or 400,000,000 years old.
Based on what you're just alleging hereabove, it is you who displays cognitive (check your sp. by the way) dissonance. And "shaking your head" doesn't help.I've seen a lot of cogantive dissonance from Creationists over the years but this one just leaves me shaking my head.
Wow.
Never let it be said that we evolutionists are the uncivil ones.
You said postmodernism goes well with Biblical inerrancy.
TheFijian asked if you know what postmodernism actually is?
You blow up and tell him to stop insulting you.
I fail to see how that actually supports your argument that postmodernism goes well with Biblical inerrancy. As it is, I just finished a book called The Revelation of God by Peter Jensen, which lambasts the postmodern perspective on reading Scripture from his conservative viewpoints. In fact, he makes many good points that cause me to be slightly more critical of my own liberal views.
You do realize, for example, that we are talking about Barth, about deconstruction of text (which is practically antithetical to your handling of Scripture), the rejection of overarching, authoritarian meta-narratives (and it doesn't get more overarching or authoritarian than the Christian eschaton), constructivism, etc.?
Or: Do you know what postmodernism is?
Thats almost funny. Evolution, theistic or otherwise, is the root of post modernism, the beginning of the alteration of the truth of the bible.
Oh come one stop joking about.A lot better than you. In fact, I am much smarter and more educated than you.
Ah so you were using the term 'post-modernism' in a post-modernist fashion?Sorry for returning explicit insults for your implicit insults. At least I can demonstrate that neither type of insult advances the discussion. Since you weren't getting it otherwise, I wasn't sure what else to do but to continue with overtly gratuitous statements.
]Oh come one stop joking about.
Ah so you were using the term 'post-modernism' in a post-modernist fashion?
Umm, no. Do you actually know what post-modernism is? Or are you just using it as a catch-all phrase for whatever you see as being unbiblical?
I wonder what he would think of YECs today? Perhaps we would have thought they, too, were taking a "post-modern" view of the Bible; accepting what the Bible has to say about the creation of the earth, but rejecting what it says about geocentrism (or relegating such references to 'metaphor').So it goes now. Whoever wants to be clever must agree with nothing that others esteem. He must do something of his own. This is what that fellow does who wishes to turn the whole of astronomy upside down. Even in these things that are thrown into disorder I believe the Holy Scriptures, for Joshua commanded the sun to stand still and not the earth [Jos. 10:12]
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