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Well, having a pope isn't biblical either. A 'vicar of Christ'?! Mm Hm...
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Would you say having Cardinals is biblical
http://www.christianforums.com/t7292111-7/#post49474069
'Apostolic Succession' of Roman See = House of Straw
Would you say having Cardinals is biblical
http://www.christianforums.com/t7292111-7/#post49474069
'Apostolic Succession' of Roman See = House of Straw
I don't even want to go there on this threadWell, having a pope isn't biblical either. A 'vicar of Christ'?! Mm Hm...
Well, having a pope isn't biblical either. A 'vicar of Christ'?! Mm Hm...
I don't even want to go there on this thread
http://www.christianforums.com/t7325781-104/
Pope, King of the world?
snip OP:
#1. "The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God."
I learned to do that from the bestYou're the one who started that small diversion with the question to me about Cardinals.
How comeWe don't have cardinals.
Yes, I've gone over the Protestant errors of rejecting ALL traditions because of certain Catholic traditions that they don't like.
Citing Catholic traditions makes no sense in a stream of discussion with Orthodox.
But then Protestants are simply reacting to Catholicism.
Citing Catholic traditions makes no sense in a stream of discussion with Orthodox.
Originally Posted by MontalbanYes, I've gone over the Protestant errors of rejecting ALL traditions because of certain Catholic traditions that they don't like.
Citing Catholic traditions makes no sense in a stream of discussion with Orthodox.
But then Protestants are simply reacting to Catholicism.
Boy, if that ain't the pot callin the kettle.....True.
Pro-Scribe - you are Orthodox - correct ?
... this coming from the one who says Tradition is the best rule in the evaluation of the correctness of positions, what is MORE inspired than Scripture, MORE inerrant than Scripture, MORE reliable than Scripture, MORE knowable by all and unalterable by all, MORE ecumenically and historically embraced. Yeah. Well, Tradition embraces Cardinal and an infallible Pope and Purgatory and the Immaculate Conception of Mary and Original Sin and Transubstantiation and the Assumption of Mary - the later all as DE FIDE DOGMA - the highest level of teaching, all STRIGHT FROM TRADITION. It's all there - ask any Catholic bishop. Right there in Tradition. Oh, and ask any Mormon Bishop if Tradition includes Joseph Smith finding those plates and Jesus visiting the Americas - yup, it's all THERE - right there in Tradition - and you have noted that Tradition should be the rule in determining what is correct and what is not.
(To my Protestant friends: When the RCC and LDS say "Tradition" what is meant is "what I teach." Yes, IF they would accept ANY norma normans in ANY normative process - and they won't - that would be the one rule that might be considered: do I agree with me?)
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Boy, if that ain't the pot callin the kettle.....
I would think he doesDo you realize that you are speaking to an Eastern Orthodox Christian?
Yes, I've gone over the Protestant errors of rejecting ALL traditions because of certain Catholic traditions that they don't like.
Citing Catholic traditions makes no sense in a stream of discussion with Orthodox.
But then Protestants are simply reacting to Catholicism.
Josiah said:... this coming from the one who says Tradition is the best rule in the evaluation of the correctness of positions, what is MORE inspired than Scripture, MORE inerrant than Scripture, MORE reliable than Scripture, MORE knowable by all and unalterable by all, MORE ecumenically and historically embraced. Yeah. Well, Tradition embraces Cardinal and an infallible Pope and Purgatory and the Immaculate Conception of Mary and Original Sin and Transubstantiation and the Assumption of Mary - the later all as DE FIDE DOGMA - the highest level of teaching, all STRIGHT FROM TRADITION. It's all there - ask any Catholic bishop. Right there in Tradition. Oh, and ask any Mormon Bishop if Tradition includes Joseph Smith finding those plates and Jesus visiting the Americas - yup, it's all THERE - right there in Tradition - and you have noted that Tradition should be the rule in determining what is correct and what is not.
(To my Protestant friends: When the RCC and LDS say "Tradition" what is meant is "what I teach." Yes, IF they would accept ANY norma normans in ANY normative process - and they won't - that would be the one rule that might be considered: do I agree with me?)
Do you realize that you are speaking to an Eastern Orthodox Christian?
Well, we haven' yet started a thread on the errors of OrthodoxyWell, I'm sure you have gone over these so-called Protestant errors, or what you think is error anyway, therefore you must think that the issue has been settled.
If an accepted church tradition is contrary to Scripture (not found in Scripture), it should be rejected.
And for some who like to point out 'so-called' errors by posting ECF quotes, Wiki articles, or links from catholic/orthodox apologetics sites is completely moot, IMO.
Well, I'm sure you have gone over these so-called Protestant errors, or what you think is error anyway, therefore you must think that the issue has been settled. However, I'm curious to know why you think that I or any Protestant should accept whatever you think is error concerning our rejection of unbiblical catholic traditions. I don't reject all church tradition, only the ones that are not biblical. If an accepted church tradition is contrary to Scripture (not found in Scripture), it should be rejected. And for some who like to point out 'so-called' errors by posting ECF quotes, Wiki articles, or links from catholic/orthodox apologetics sites is completely moot, IMO.
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