Why should I belong to YOUR denomination?

Pastor N.B. · Oct 5, 2002

Originally posted by humblejoe
Pastor N.B., I've been reading your posts for a long time now, and I have to say... I no more understand them now than when I first read them.

But really, could you be more specific? I don't understand what you're getting at. Are you saying that the Seventh Day Adventist Church is the only group of people that will get into Heaven?
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P/N/B/ here: Adventism has Virgin doctrines. And so did Israel of old have the VIRGIN FOLD DOCTRINES. These DOCTRINES SAVE [NO ONE]. Only Having Christ will do that! NOW: If [one] HAS CHRIST AS THEIR MASTER, THEY WILL FOLLOW THE MASTER INTO THE DOCTRINES OF HIS TRUE VIRGIN FOLD! OK? (perhaps the reason for the confussion is that of the true vrs. false denominations? Both have some babes inside them which are still on the milk of Heb. 5, yet, *THEY are converted today only, but what will they do when they advance into maturity is ths question? The choice of Heb. 6 is theirs to make)

Now for the OTHER FOLDS of John 10:16? (denominations) All denominations that have [known error & OPEN sinners in them], DO NOT HAVE THE MASTER INSIDE THEM. (if one belives the Master to begin with? Read Joshua 7:12's last part of the verse!) We either believe God or we do not! Does anyone today not SEE IN PRINT & ON NATIONAL TV OF OPEN FILTH INSIDE DENOMINATIONS Rev. 18:4 states that you are a [partaker]. FACT! OK?

AGAIN: Inside these un/scriptual denominations are CHRISTS TRUE CONVERTED PEOPLE. Re/read Rev. 18:4 for what the Master is [saying HIMSELF]. (not me)
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Are you saying that people of other groups will only get to Heaven by chance? Are you saying that the "Virgin fold" is only the Seventh Day Adventist Church?

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The [WORD SAYS], not me! that the final test will find all of the saved ones UNITED into ONE TRUE FOLD BEFORE HE COMES FOR HIS CHOSSEN. And just before Christ does this work, 1 Peter 4:17 tells us that JUDGEMENT BEGINES WITH THE VIRGIN HOUSE OF GOD [FIRST]! And from this you will find the [FALLING AWAY FIRST] in 2 Thess. 2:1-3. Exactly the same as Israel of old we are told in Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15---hope that this helps? P/N/B/

PS: By the way, the [Virgin Doctrines] live on, yet both of these denominations have the same fate as seen in Matt. 23:38. Christ stated a Gospel fact.. "BEHOLD YOUR HOUSE (denomination) [IS LEFT UNTO YOU DESOLATE]." (desolate of whom? Read Rev. 3:9 for who was now their new master?) Matt. 25 is the 'midnight cry' for both groups and that was 39 years before the Loud Cry of 70AD slaughter of Exe. 9.

Caedmon · Oct 5, 2002

Originally posted by Pastor N.B.
Now for the OTHER FOLDS of John 10:16? (denominations) All denominations that have [known error & OPEN sinners in them], DO NOT HAVE THE MASTER INSIDE THEM. (if one belives the Master to begin with? Read Joshua 7:12's last part of the verse!) We either believe God or we do not! Does anyone today not SEE IN PRINT & ON NATIONAL TV OF OPEN FILTH INSIDE DENOMINATIONS Rev. 18:4 states that you are a [partaker]. FACT! OK?

How do I know what "known error" is? Which denominations/groups(including SDA) do not have one or two "OPEN sinners in them"? And how am I a "partaker" of "FILTH INSIDE DENOMINATIONS", when I have not sinned in the manner/degree of those that do?

Pastor N.B. · Oct 5, 2002

Originally posted by humblejoe
How do I know what "known error" is? Which denominations/groups(including SDA) do not have one or two "OPEN sinners in them"? And how am I a "partaker" of "FILTH INSIDE DENOMINATIONS", when I have not sinned in the manner/degree of those that do?

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P/N/B/ here:
Anything not truth is error. True Doctrine comes about by ALL Scripture. (66 bks.) 2 Tim. 3:16 [Open known] (not motives-mind reading)) sin is to be dealth with according to Matt. 16:19 & chapter 18:15-18. NOTICE where it is bound, or loosed?
(you asked about stoning? That was in Gods theocracy. The above verses show that this adding members or deleating members is a removal from the Lambs book of life unless later claim is made, otherwise eternal death is the outcome)

And are we guilty you ask? Pay tithe to support this OPEN stuff! The Minister is sent by the denomination in most cases, and the building is owned by who? And we are in THE YOKED MEMBERSHIP to boot! Rev. 18:4 tells us WE ARE PARTAKERS! Worse still for me Joe, is How could I LOVE MY MASTER AND SEND HIS NEW BORN BABES INTO THIS CELL-POOL OF FILTH?

The Master Himself tells us who the guilty ones are: See Luke 12:47-48 & Eze. 33:6 "His watchman [are blind]: they are all [ignorant], they are [all dumb dogs, they CANNOT bark] ..." Isa. 56:10 are the Words of Inspiration Joe.

And what if the denomination will not do its responsibility? Or can a denomination (Adventism) be Virgin in doctrine only & still be found with her candelstick removed? Yes. Read Rev. 2:5. But, God told us more still, that of REPEATED HISTORY, TWICE. (the verses are on futher down) Virgin Israel of old & Virgin Adventism of today. (IN DOCTRINE ONLY). At His first coming & at His second coming! Read Rev. 3:16-17's rejection of being 'Spewed Out'--SICKENING LOVE! Again 1 Peter 4:17 & Lev. 16:14 of 'seven times'. STUDY Eze. 9

(Joe, I suggest that you might print this for near furture understanding?)

Notice this commandment from Christ in Matt. 23:2 "[ALL] therefore, whatsoever they bid you observe, [that observe and do]; BUT DO NOT AFTER THEIR [WORKS: FOR THEY SAY AND DO NOT.]" (No problem with doctrine here)

Both histories have Christ coming Joe, the [first time & at the end of time]. (O.T. & N.T. ending) Israel of old the first time with a new Remnant from with/in making up His true Virgin Fold [*OUTSIDE]. Yet it was made up of the nucleus from HIS OWN, at the start! See Matt. 10:5-6. And then the repeat of Virgin Israel of Adventism (see Rom. 2:28-29) just before the Mark of the Beast. (see 2 Thess.2:1-3. That is why you have 1 Peter 4:17 in plain sight. This is where you are at in time. (history repeated-see Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15)
Matt. 25's Virgins by name, are for both histories just prior to the closing of their probation as a denomination. The CALL in this [Midnight Cry] is seen in verse 6 ibide.
"And at midnight, there was a cry made, behold the Bridegroom commeth, GO YE OUT TO MEET HIM." Where was He at when Israel of olds 'probation' ended? Who took over? try Rev. 3:9 & again Matt. 23's whole chapter from 5 on, but verse 38 PROFOUNDLY!

Hope this helps! Did you go to the site that I posted up?? This study will ground any sincere believer more than any other I believe! God says that "His way is in the Sanctuary'' Psalms 77:13--------P/N/B/

PS: And the other FALSE FOLDS? These will be tested to see if there is any real saving faith in them, by the Mark of the Beast. (Only the in/mature that is)

Lynn · Oct 6, 2002

Originally posted by Pastor N.B.
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P/N/B/ here:
Anything not truth is error. True Doctrine comes about by ALL Scripture. (66 bks.) 2 Tim. 3:16 [Open known] (not motives-mind reading)) sin is to be dealth with according to Matt. 16:19 & chapter 18:15-18. NOTICE where it is bound, or loosed?
(you asked about stoning? That was in Gods theocracy. The above verses show that this adding members or deleating members is a removal from the Lambs book of life unless later claim is made, otherwise eternal death is the outcome)

And are we guilty you ask? Pay tithe to support this OPEN stuff! The Minister is sent by the denomination in most cases, and the building is owned by who? And we are in THE YOKED MEMBERSHIP to boot! Rev. 18:4 tells us WE ARE PARTAKERS! Worse still for me Joe, is How could I LOVE MY MASTER AND SEND HIS NEW BORN BABES INTO THIS CELL-POOL OF FILTH?

The Master Himself tells us who the guilty ones are: See Luke 12:47-48 & Eze. 33:6 "His watchman [are blind]: they are all [ignorant], they are [all dumb dogs, they CANNOT bark] ..." Isa. 56:10 are the Words of Inspiration Joe.

And what if the denomination will not do its responsibility? Or can a denomination (Adventism) be Virgin in doctrine only & still be found with her candelstick removed? Yes. Read Rev. 2:5. But, God told us more still, that of REPEATED HISTORY, TWICE. (the verses are on futher down) Virgin Israel of old & Virgin Adventism of today. (IN DOCTRINE ONLY). At His first coming & at His second coming! Read Rev. 3:16-17's rejection of being 'Spewed Out'--SICKENING LOVE! Again 1 Peter 4:17 & Lev. 16:14 of 'seven times'. STUDY Eze. 9

(Joe, I suggest that you might print this for near furture understanding?)

Notice this commandment from Christ in Matt. 23:2 "[ALL] therefore, whatsoever they bid you observe, [that observe and do]; BUT DO NOT AFTER THEIR [WORKS: FOR THEY SAY AND DO NOT.]" (No problem with doctrine here)

Both histories have Christ coming Joe, the [first time & at the end of time]. (O.T. & N.T. ending) Israel of old the first time with a new Remnant from with/in making up His true Virgin Fold [*OUTSIDE]. Yet it was made up of the nucleus from HIS OWN, at the start! See Matt. 10:5-6. And then the repeat of Virgin Israel of Adventism (see Rom. 2:28-29) just before the Mark of the Beast. (see 2 Thess.2:1-3. That is why you have 1 Peter 4:17 in plain sight. This is where you are at in time. (history repeated-see Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15)
Matt. 25's Virgins by name, are for both histories just prior to the closing of their probation as a denomination. The CALL in this [Midnight Cry] is seen in verse 6 ibide.
"And at midnight, there was a cry made, behold the Bridegroom commeth, GO YE OUT TO MEET HIM." Where was He at when Israel of olds 'probation' ended? Who took over? try Rev. 3:9 & again Matt. 23's whole chapter from 5 on, but verse 38 PROFOUNDLY!

Hope this helps! Did you go to the site that I posted up?? This study will ground any sincere believer more than any other I believe! God says that "His way is in the Sanctuary'' Psalms 77:13--------P/N/B/

PS: And the other FALSE FOLDS? These will be tested to see if there is any real saving faith in them, by the Mark of the Beast. (Only the in/mature that is)

Am I really the only one who has trouble understanding what you're trying to say?
And BTW, the web site you posted is full of nonsense.

lynn

Pastor N.B. · Oct 6, 2002

Hi,
Lynn I realize it is not according to your Catholic teaching. But just what is it about the Word of God in Psalms 77:13 that is [full of nonsense]? The way of the Lord is in His Sanctuary is clearly stated! Could it be that, it is the teaching that there is no other name under heaven given to man where/by one [must be saved]? Or that, that Christ is our [ONLY HIGH PRIEST]? ---In the Master's quickly finished for the House of God 'first'! see 1 Peter 4:17-------P/N/B/

Lynn · Oct 6, 2002

Originally posted by Pastor N.B.
Hi,
Lynn I realize it is not according to your Catholic teaching. But just what is it about the Word of God in Psalms 77:13 that is [full of nonsense]? The way of the Lord is in His Sanctuary is clearly stated! Could it be that, it is the teaching that there is no other name under heaven given to man where/by one [must be saved]? Or that, that Christ is our [ONLY HIGH PRIEST]? ---In the Master's quickly finished for the House of God 'first'! see 1 Peter 4:17-------P/N/B/

The Bible is NOT full of nonsense and I never said it was. Your posted web link, however, (The Bible Light HOmepage) is nonsense, inflammatory, and hateful.

lynn

Pastor N.B. · Oct 7, 2002

Originally posted by Lynn

The Bible is NOT full of nonsense and I never said it was. Your posted web link, however, (The Bible Light HOmepage) is nonsense, inflammatory, and hateful.

lynn

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Hi Lynn,
Well then, If what [you] are saying about this sit then, is [not hateful, AND INFLAMMATORY] nothing is!

And next to that, it sounds like [you] are BACKBITING? see Gen. 49:17. If not, one it seems who is a Christian, would 'duplicate' the serious charge that you are talking about? Scripture is my ONLY acceptence also you see!---P/N/B/

Lynn · Oct 7, 2002

Originally posted by Pastor N.B.
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Hi Lynn,
Well then, If what [you] are saying about this sit then, is [not hateful, AND INFLAMMATORY] nothing is!

And next to that, it sounds like [you] are BACKBITING? see Gen. 49:17. If not, one it seems who is a Christian, would 'duplicate' the serious charge that you are talking about? Scripture is my ONLY acceptence also you see!---P/N/B/

backbiting?????

your web site is.....................oh forget it.

Nilhil Obstat · Oct 7, 2002

Lynn -

Our friend, Pastor N.B. has a real issue with Catholics and the Catholic Church and we need to just pray for him.

Pastor N.B. · Oct 7, 2002

Originally posted by Nilhil Obstat
Lynn -

Our friend, Pastor N.B. has a real issue with Catholics and the Catholic Church and we need to just pray for him.

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Hi,
there we go again, & with mans 'words only! I have good friends that are Catholic. The TEACHINGS (doctrines) are something else.
If we discuss the Bible which is not very often because it is neither read or understood by most Catholics [that I know]. We see the same kind of 'chit chat' as here on the forum. Go read it

How can one convert over to Catholism with a lot of gossip such as, that (I for one) have a real issue with Catholics???? I have said that there are manny [HONEST] people inside of her that do not know any better! Heb. 5 is not even a good starting point, that of milk fed. And try Rev. 18:4,
or does that not mean you? All that we (I) hear is that I am perhaps mean or FLAMATORY. Never is there a verse of Scripture for REAL WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE.

Notice a Word for me from the Word of God in Eze. 33:6: (Ezekiel)
"But if the the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and [the people] (ANY PEOPLE) be not warned; if the sword come, and take [any person] from among them, he is [taken away in his iniquity];
but [his blood will I REQUIRE AT THE WATCHMAN'S HAND.]"

To be lost is a LONG TIME GONE! Think about that? Read it in Obadiah 16's last part in your Douay version! Now, would one not want to know this?

Now ask yourself which of the two class of watchman ARE FLAMING OR ARE HATEFUL??

Over on another post a minister suggests that the angels who fell from heaven have human young'ins on earth? One poster posted against this 'stuff', and it looks as if he is on the bottom of the pile! Who the ONE is WHO LOVES THEIR MASTER is not hard for me at least, to see. The one who follows Christ's Words in Matt. 4:4! And yes, neither one is Catholic!---P/N/B/

Nilhil Obstat · Oct 7, 2002

Originally posted by Pastor N.B.
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Hi,
there we go again, & with mans 'words only! I have good friends that are Catholic. The TEACHINGS (doctrines) are something else.

They are something else - God's word, God's truth.

 

If we discuss the Bible which is not very often because it is neither read or understood by most Catholics [that I know].

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But NOWHERE in the bible does it say to live by the bible alone! That was man's work - Martin Luther. You are following mans tradition and man's word when you interpret the bible for yourself.

And shame on you for twisting God's holy word in order to raise yourself above your fellow Christian. Who appointed you judge and jury of other faiths. Judge lest ye be judged by the measure inwhich you judge others.

We see the same kind of 'chit chat' as here on the forum. Go read it

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Babble, bable

How can one convert over to Catholism with a lot of gossip such as, that (I for one) have a real issue with Catholics???? I have said that there are manny [HONEST] people inside of her that do not know any better!

Again with the personal judgement of people which you know not! Where do you get your authority?

Heb. 5 is not even a good starting point, that of milk fed. And try Rev. 18:4,
or does that not mean you? All that we (I) hear is that I am perhaps mean or FLAMATORY. Never is there a verse of Scripture for REAL WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE.

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1 Tim 3:15. The church is the pillar and foundation of truth. Not just the bible - the church.

And yes, neither one is Catholic!---P/N/B/

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Again....where do YOU get off?

Nilhil Obstat · Oct 7, 2002

Whatever.

Extirpated Wildlife · Oct 7, 2002

Do you really believe that every denomination is basically the same?  I guess I don't agree with the concept of "find the church that fits your personality/needs".  Someone could possibly end up at the Mormon church and think that church fits their needs.  Or the Jehovah Witness church and feel that fits their needs/personality.

The name of our church appears nondenominational, and the format does too.  Most people don't even know that our church is a Southern Baptist church.  And that's the way we want it. Giving Glocally is our church's theme, basically.  We've done the battle of the bands, we do a Life of Christ drive-through for Christmas (4-5 languages on Tape or CD for people to listen to while driving through), sports camps, Fall Festival on Halloween(Cowboy theme this year).  Our Church building is functional.  No Chandeleirs.  We do themes to grab the lost into our church.

One thing i personally like that i will start a thread on is they don't have invitation at the end of service, but they do have a place for people to go to who have questions afterwards.

Our church stresses giving.  Giving to your community.  Giving to the poor.  Giving to the needy.  Giving to the world.  Our church is in the process of building a hospital in Kandahar.

Nearly every week our pastor stresses or talks about the missions we have going on.

Its a different Baptist church than i am used to.

 

Lynn · Oct 7, 2002

Originally posted by Pastor N.B.
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Hi,

If we discuss the Bible which is not very often because it is neither read or understood by most Catholics [that I know]. We see the same kind of 'chit chat' as here on the forum. Go read it

I get sooo very tired of this. We read the BIble every single time Mass is celebrated. Many of us read the Bible daily, have Bible study classes, prayer groups, theology classes, etc, etc, etc. You may participate in "chit chat" when discussing your faith, we don't.

and BTW, can you possibly write a post without all of the brackets, parentheses, and capital letters? It would make it much easier to follow your train of thought. Perhaps I'm simply not understanding what you are really saying. I honestly don't like misunderstandings and discord. I would rather be able to discuss with you clearly.

lynn

Pastor N.B. · Oct 7, 2002

Lynn:
Share what you have learned [from scripture]. But be prepared to receive the same from others that may be different.---P/N/B/

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And for another poster?
My (old) new Catholic Version of the Holy Bible (Douay Version)
it states in Matthew 4:4 the Words of my Master:
"But He answered and said, "It is written, Not by bread alone does man live, [but by every Word that comes forth from the mouth of God]"

And I suspect that when.. "Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost" this includes 2 Tim. 3:16-17?! The Catholic bible says it this way:
"[ALL SCRIPTURE] IS INSPIRED BY GOD AND USEFUL [FOR TEACHING], [FOR REPROVING], [FOR CORRECTING], [FOR INSTRUCTING IN JUSTICE]; that the man of God may be [perfect, equipted for every good work]." with highlights Lynn.

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