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WaZoO said:Because God doesn't pick favorites.
It does? It seems strange to you that Christians are human beings, like the rest of the population?This seems to me strange.
Christians aren't the Way, the Truth, or the Life.The Bellman said:I have never seen any study that demonstrates that Christians are any different, as a group, to non-Christians (Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, atheists, etc.). They're no more or less healthy (mentally or physically), better citizens, more law-abiding, considerate, 'good', and so forth; their marriages are no better; their relationships are no better; they don't make more money, they're not better educated...there's no discernable difference.
This seems to me strange. If Christians are, in fact, the only group who has the Truth, why is this not reflected in the world in which they live? The fact that it's not would seem to me to indicate that Christianity is no closer to the Truth than any other religious belief (or lack thereof).
God isn't too keen on slavery.royboy said:What about the "chosen" people? God clearly favoured them over the Egyptians when he killed their babies.
James 2:12-13, "Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, 13 because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment!" (NIV)The Bellman said:I have never seen any study that demonstrates that Christians are any different, as a group, to non-Christians (Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, atheists, etc.). They're no more or less healthy (mentally or physically), better citizens, more law-abiding, considerate, 'good', and so forth; their marriages are no better; their relationships are no better; they don't make more money, they're not better educated...there's no discernable difference.
This seems to me strange. If Christians are, in fact, the only group who has the Truth, why is this not reflected in the world in which they live? The fact that it's not would seem to me to indicate that Christianity is no closer to the Truth than any other religious belief (or lack thereof).
The Bellman said:I have never seen any study that demonstrates that Christians are any different, as a group, to non-Christians (Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, atheists, etc.). They're no more or less healthy (mentally or physically), better citizens, more law-abiding, considerate, 'good', and so forth; their marriages are no better; their relationships are no better; they don't make more money, they're not better educated...there's no discernable difference.
This seems to me strange. If Christians are, in fact, the only group who has the Truth, why is this not reflected in the world in which they live? The fact that it's not would seem to me to indicate that Christianity is no closer to the Truth than any other religious belief (or lack thereof).
You should get out more.The Bellman said:I have never seen any study that demonstrates that Christians are any different, as a group, to non-Christians (Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, atheists, etc.).
The Bellman said:I have never seen any study that demonstrates that Christians are any different, as a group, to non-Christians (Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, atheists, etc.). They're no more or less healthy (mentally or physically), better citizens, more law-abiding, considerate, 'good', and so forth; their marriages are no better; their relationships are no better; they don't make more money, they're not better educated...there's no discernable difference.
Sorry, which studies posted above give evidence of this?wonderboy92577 said:The studies posted above give evidence only that Christians seem to far better in adverse situations at different times in their lives because of what they believe.
Any support for this claim? I'd love to see such.stray bullet said:Modern Christians, sure. It wasn't always like this. I think within the last few centuries they have found Christian communities without illness, et cetera.
No, the study you cited (and others cited above) demonstrate that a firm belief - in ANYTHING - can be helpful; that a fellowship with a group of supportive believers - in ANYTHING - can be helpful. None of them demonstrate that christianity is 'anything special' when it comes to these benefits. Whynot?Eudaimonist said:You should get out more.
Here is a report on a study that shows that both the deeply believing Christians and nontheists confident in their lack of belief share a positive correlation with health and subjective reports of satisfaction with life compared with agnostics and the mildly religious.
http://www.objectivistcenter.org/articles/klivingston_faith-reason-good-life.asp
The article is a bit long, but it's worth reading.
And it doesn't mean they're MORE happy, either. Do you have anything to suggest that christians are, in fact, more happy?Jedi christian said:This doesn't mean they are less happy. You can't judge happiness by a survey or test. They're marriges can be just as bad, they're health just as bad, but they can still be happy. A person must go through bad things to appreciate the good things. A christian must go through this life here on earth to appreciate our eternity in heaven. If we were all born in heaven, we wouldn't think it was that great, because we would be used to it!
Statistics from a christian website, with no specification on where on this pertty large website this study can be found? Sorry, more information required before this can even be admitted as evidence. Surveys show that marriages of christians have no greater (in fact, slightly less) success than those of atheists.Jedi christian said:STATISTICS
A Harvard study reveals that couples who read the Bible together regularly, pray together regularly and attend church together regularly have a divorce rate of 1 in 1287, less than 1/10 of 1%!
SOURCE www.marriages.net
- 40% of first marriages end in divorce.
SOURCE-Divorce Center, Time, September 25, 2000
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