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Why Metal Isn't Evil

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Hey guys, I'm new here. But, I'd like to address something.

Metal/rock is not evil, and, I'll explain why. By metal and rock, I don't mean just heavy metal and rock n roll, I mean all kinds such as death metal, thrash metal, folk metal, black metal, metalcofe, etc. the reason I am posting it in this sub forum is because a lot of people think because of it's origin, it is evil.

Yes, Ozzy and Robert Plant invented it. Ozzy's music isn't the best out there, of course. A kid a my church said it's bad because of all the things associated with it. Sure, there's drugs associated with metal. As in Ozzy. How about Holy Soldier? You see them praising God. So what, they dress a certain way? How is it evil?

It's just a genre. What makes music praising to God or not are the lyrics, the people playing it, and, the intention behind it. If you play an electric guitar on a clean setting like an acoustic, is there anything offensive about it? No. But what if I add a heavy sound, oh that's wrong, right? Lolno. It's just a sound of an instrument.

Another thing I'd like to add is that the kind of dorky sound of hymns doesn't reach out to a big audience. Christian metal can reach out to an audience hymns would not. That situation is common with me. Among the Metallica, Led Zep, Cannibal Corpse, and Ensiferum, I found Stryper, Holy Blood, As I Lay Dying, Skillet (they are alternative metal not CCM as most people label them), Petra, Mortification, and bands such as that became a better influence on me.

Some people say they think it's bad because they couldn't see God listening to it. That's pretty much opinion wise. I can't see god listening to old southern gospel because to me it sounds like random uGplanned high pitched vocals,
Random guitars, weird drums, and, pianos that are out of tune by 100 octaves.

I could see him listening to just about everything except for southern gospel and old classical. The phallacy there is that it's an opinion.

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A couple of things. First of all, you have made very big mistake in calling the hymns "dorky". They are not. They will be here long after either you are me. They speak of spritiual truths.

Now, that being said, I will agree with you that there is nothing wrong with metal music that praises God! You are going to find those that will not agree with this, citing that simply because it has a "back beat", it is wrong. But that makes no sense to me; any music that praises Him is what it is all about.

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A couple of things. First of all, you have made very big mistake in calling the hymns "dorky". They are not. They will be here long after either you are me. They speak of spritiual truths.

Now, that being said, I will agree with you that there is nothing wrong with metal music that praises God! You are going to find those that will not agree with this, citing that simply because it has a "back beat", it is wrong. But that makes no sense to me; any music that praises Him is what it is all about.

Oh my gosh. I said "The dorky SOUND" not "it IS [factually] DORKY" huge difference.

But yeah, someone who actually agrees lololol.
 
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Well, in my opinion, heavy metal and even electric guitars aren't appropriate in worship. While worshipping, the focus should be on God, Jesus, etc., not on how cool that guitar sounds. Are there exceptions on both ends of the spectrum? Of course. But, generally, hymns played on the organ/piano are much less... distracting (for lack of a better word) than those played by a rock band.
 
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Well, in my opinion, heavy metal and even electric guitars aren't appropriate in worship. While worshipping, the focus should be on God, Jesus, etc., not on how cool that guitar sounds. Are there exceptions on both ends of the spectrum? Of course. But, generally, hymns played on the organ/piano are much less... distracting (for lack of a better word) than those played by a rock band.

Take that argument further and everyone would sit in silence like the Quakers(I have a lot of respect for the Quakers so am not criticising their style of worship. Just making a point). If God has blessed you with a vocal/musical talent why not use it in worshipping him?As someone who likes both Metal and Southern Gospel it is all down to taste. But surely if you are worshipping God and it brings more people to God(I have had extensive experience of the metal scene and, while there are some, it is fair to say there are not that many Christians in it. This is possibly because a lot of Christians incorrectly consider the genre of music 'Satanic'. Black Metal is Satanic. Most other metal, bar one or two bands, is not) then surely that is a good thing?
 
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All metal music isn't bad, but there is more 'evil' side of it than the good. I have heard almost every sub genre of Metal (though kept myself at an arms distance of Blackened death metal and Black metal) To say black metal isn't evil is like saying 'poison won't kill you'. Also bands like Slayer, decide etc who have anti Christ/God songs (though one would argue that Tom Araya goes to church every Sunday) Darker side of Metal is clearly visible, Personally I don't think one can worship God with heavy metal(thrash/Death/metalcore/Black etc) kind of music. It may be an excuse just cling on to metal music in a different way.
 
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Just as long as they aren't screaming as if something is tormenting them or as if they are infuriated. Just as long as its not something you violently bang your head to when you're "feeling it".

Well if they have a reason to be infuriated then why not? I would say if its being infuriated for no real reason then maybe its wrong, but being angry about something is not a sin, after all Jesus himself got angry in the temple (with a noble reason of course)
The 70's punk movement was a great example, in Britain at least, our BAD governmental system was improved and so was our music in general, through the music that was challenging for people to stomach they managed to change which is great :p
When I went to see a band recently I headbanged, did I sin? I don't think so. I also moshed because I enjoy the music.
Now if you are talking of in worship, well obviously... I don't like the use of instruments in worship, I think it is better for praising God. If instruments were playing and it was out of tune (Being a guitarist myself) It would put me off, I think i would focus too much on the actual instruments than actually singing.
 
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Is the song's words in line with the New Testament? Are the song's words understandable? Are the people doing the song decently dressed? A disjointed choir stamping out hymns to the mangled tune of a barely operational piano IS NOT making a joyful noise unto the Lord, it is mocking what was meant to praise God. It won't hurt to replace that junky piano with a new keyboard.
 
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Hey guys, I'm new here. But, I'd like to address something.

Metal/rock is not evil, and, I'll explain why. By metal and rock, I don't mean just heavy metal and rock n roll, I mean all kinds such as death metal, thrash metal, folk metal, black metal, metalcofe, etc. the reason I am posting it in this sub forum is because a lot of people think because of it's origin, it is evil.

Yes, Ozzy and Robert Plant invented it. Ozzy's music isn't the best out there, of course. A kid a my church said it's bad because of all the things associated with it. Sure, there's drugs associated with metal. As in Ozzy. How about Holy Soldier? You see them praising God. So what, they dress a certain way? How is it evil?

It's just a genre. What makes music praising to God or not are the lyrics, the people playing it, and, the intention behind it. If you play an electric guitar on a clean setting like an acoustic, is there anything offensive about it? No. But what if I add a heavy sound, oh that's wrong, right? Lolno. It's just a sound of an instrument.

Another thing I'd like to add is that the kind of dorky sound of hymns doesn't reach out to a big audience. Christian metal can reach out to an audience hymns would not. That situation is common with me. Among the Metallica, Led Zep, Cannibal Corpse, and Ensiferum, I found Stryper, Holy Blood, As I Lay Dying, Skillet (they are alternative metal not CCM as most people label them), Petra, Mortification, and bands such as that became a better influence on me.

Some people say they think it's bad because they couldn't see God listening to it. That's pretty much opinion wise. I can't see god listening to old southern gospel because to me it sounds like random uGplanned high pitched vocals,
Random guitars, weird drums, and, pianos that are out of tune by 100 octaves.

I could see him listening to just about everything except for southern gospel and old classical. The phallacy there is that it's an opinion.

Have a good day.

Ah, you sir have renewed my view on this subject and gave me a few laughs:

1.metalcofe? lol its metalcore, but it sounds like your from Norway or something so cool! \m/
2. Skillet is not CCM as most people say. Lol true because those people can't label a band correctly.
3. Pianos that are out-tuned by a 100 octaves. HAHAH ok I lost all self-control.

I know exactly what you are talking about. I love metal! Some good bands you listed, both secular and christian. I can recommend some more christian bands to you if you like?

I am currently practicing at this church I have been going to. I will play lead guitar for them, but have a difficult time doing so when they do songs like this. "and if our G-d is for us, then who can EVErrrrrr stop usssssss" (slow tempo, off beat yuck.) SO I am working with the drummer right now who shares my frustrations. Anyways point being, this music probably can never reach out to kids like me. So boring and not 100 % given like they claim.
 
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Like any genre, it depends on the band.

Every band's different, that's like saying ''every black person's a thief'' because one black person robbed someone. Dude stop generalizing just because a FEW bands are satanic and evil (like deathcore, an example would be Whitechapel, that's some pretty brutal, angry, violent music generally). Although there's a ton of really positive metal bands out there like War of Ages, Born of Osiris, Those Who Fear, August Burns Red, etc.

In my opinion a lot of rap music could be considered evil because it talks about violence, abusing women, materialism, etc.

Every band will have different messages and a different vibe or feel to it, you can't generalize.
 
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My conviction on this matter is that it's perfectly fine to listen to hard rock/heavy metal, rap, pop, etc. as long as the lyrics are Christian in nature. Just because bands like Stryper, Petra, White Heart, etc. play music that features electric guitars, drums, etc. doesn't make them any less Christian than someone who sings gospel, because in the end, both artists are singing songs that glorify God/Christianity, and that should be the primary focus when determining what music is okay to listen to, and what isn't.
 
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