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I realize Christians are not suicidal or careless with life, I was just pointing out why dying would look more attractive to the Christian than the Atheist. For the Atheist this is all you get, might as well make the most of it; for the Christian this is just a trial run, the real party starts after you die.
Ken
Not judging my friend.
Just curious why atheists want to suffer?
Speaking only for myself, life has very little suffering in it. When I compare that to the love, joy, accomplishments, relationships, and fun this life has to offer every day! It's worth it.Why make the most of it when it includes suffering? Isn't no suffering better than any?
Not really. Rather, I want to increase well-being - mine and that of others.Do you not want to avoid suffering?
Actually, oftentimes I find myself choosing occupations that I know will come with some pain or sorrow. So no.Avoid any instance of pain or sorrow?
I had and will have non-existence for billions of years. Now, non-existence isn´t a state to be in, to begin with...but that´s another question.Why then would you not choose non-existence?
Yes, I am aware that this is why some people believe in a god: it´s necessary for them to find life meaningful. Just be careful not to project.I continue living because God has made me for a reason. He has given me a goal in life and I realize what that goal is.
That´s a very odd way of putting it. It´s more like suffering being a tolerable by-product of that which I want.Just curious why atheists want to suffer?
Disclaimer: I am not promoting/condoning suicide. This is just a conceptual question and I DO NOT mean to suggest any one end their life.
This question is towards atheists and other non-monotheists, including pantheists. Why should you live at all? If you are going to die in the future, why live at all? Is it not better to end any instance of suffering?
That's a pretty loaded question. People clearly don't want to suffer but wanting to survive pain and discomfort is not a desire to suffer. It's a desire to overcome it with the hopes of safeguarding future well-being and joy. Clearly not everyone has the same experiences and there are instances in which death becomes a mercy. I can certainly think of instances in which I would likely choose to die and I really doubt these are any different than the reasons many Christians have chosen to die.Not judging my friend. Just curious why atheists want to suffer?
Um, no? This is probably a crude example, but some of the best sex I've had involved some level of pain. That's not to say we're all masochists, but not all suffering is created equal. I suffered when my grandfather died. That doesn't stop me from wanting to live because I treasure many other things: the rest of my family that is alive, friends, sex, learning, eating, traveling, even just the fact that I'm having subjective experiences. But as I said above, all these can be overridden by particular circumstances in which the negatives outweigh the positives.Why make the most of it when it includes suffering? Isn't no suffering better than any?
Please refer to my previous replies. Thanks!
All that's dandy and good but when you have the choice of choosing to end this life, why carry on? Especially when you know there will be at least one moment of suffering in the future? Why prefer that suffering over non-existence? Why prefer the ailments of diabetes or cancer when you don't HAVE to face it?
Is it not better to end any instance of suffering?
Looks like you all have the secret to the perfect life. I don't think you understand what non-existence truly means. Lacking ANY experience should be preferred to experiencing at least one moment of genuine suffering. Why get shot in the leg when you have the option to avoid it? The hope for a future good is only favorable if, at the end of life, you have something to do with it. For the Christian, God will use our actions, good and bad, for the benefit of others and ourselves. However, if it all ends at the grave, then why bother? Afraid of death perhaps?
So you would love the experience of getting shot in the leg?
I am stunned by your attitude here. People have taken your question seriously and given you serious, thoughtful responses, but you continue to goad them. They have told you that they are glad to be alive, enjoy being alive and are not in a rush to not be alive. What more do you need?
You seem a little obsessed by the prospect of people getting shot in the leg. A person who is shot in the leg can still lead a happy life.
I am trying to show them that life is meaningless if God does not exist. If I stunned you by my "attitude" then I apologize. I don't understand what part of my reply came across as having an attitude to you. I was just stating my beliefs. I have the freedom to do that!
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