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Why isn't the conservative base backing Ron Paul?

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johnjaxs

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He is the ideal Republican:

Believe's in limiting government power in the lives of it's people.

Has never voted for a gun control law.

Has never swayed and never backed down from his ideals or beliefs.

Religious to the bone.

Wants to help and protect his people and not play baby sitter to the world.

Believes in the founding fathers.

Wants to cut taxes & give money back to its people.

Helped pass the partial birth abortion ban.

Never voted to raise taxes.

Never voted for an unbalance budget.

Has never taken a government paid junket.

Has never voted to raise congressional pay.

Voted againest the patriot act, and the total power it gives the government.

Voted againest the Iraq war, Thou shall not kill.

Voted againest regulating the internet.

He returns a portion of his congressional office budget back to the U.S treasury every year.

Wants to help war veterans.

Wants to use the original plan to go after Osama Bin Laden, unlike Bush who seemed to get overly side tracked.

And above all he has saved lives even as a flight surgeon in the U.S air force.

Vote Ron Paul 2008. :amen:
 

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He is the ideal Republican:

Believe's in limiting government power in the lives of it's people.


Voted againest the patriot act, and the total power it gives the government.
This is probably why the government would never let him be elected. If he starts gaining momentum, he should stay out of airplanes.
 
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There are many reasons I would not vote for Ron Paul. To name a few.

1. Ron Paul is one of the people spreading the North American Union conspiracy.

2. Ron Paul wants to immediately cut and run in Iraq.

3. Ron Paul excused Al-Qaeda's attack on America with this comment about 9/11: "They attack us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years." NOT the man I want as Commander and Chief.

4. Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Jul 2006)

5. Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003)

6. Voted NO on reforming the UN by restricting US funding. (Jun 2005)

7. Believes Military aggressiveness weakens our national defense. (May 2007)

8. Believes Intervention abroad incites hatred & attacks like 9/11. (May 2007)
 
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Ron Paul is actually a libertarian running as a republican. His biggest sin is in opposing the invasion of Iraq and the Patriot Act.

I won't vote for him because I think he's a little too draconian, but I admire him because he sticks to his principles and is not in politics for monetary gain.
 
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You can not call the Republican base “conservative”. It is untrue to the definition of the word, it is untrue to the values the party was founded on and it is untrue to the conservative political philosophy. Ron Paul very much embodies those conservative values, but his party no longer does. The Republican party base today is what can be called “Neo-Conservatives”, a twisted and deformed ideology derived from segments of leftist economic ideology, combined with rightist social ideology and a bunch of imperialistic and arrogant foreign policy, all supported by the Jewish lobby in America.
 
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From a non-voter from the other side of the world, Ron Paul is certainly my favorite because of his integrity. However, one does not get to be elected president by having strong principles and standing behind them. To get elected, one needs to compromise and be as vague as possible to be able to convince as many interest groups as possible that as a president, you will champion their cause, as opposed to standing firm behind your own principles.

Congressman Paul's QUESTIONS THAT WON'T BE ASKED ABOUT IRAQ from September 2002 is a classic. What's more, he was right. Too bad for him that people do not vote for the candidate who tells the truth as it is if the truth makes the voters uncomfortable; they vote for the candidate who tells them what they want to hear.

QUESTIONS THAT WON'T BE ASKED ABOUT IRAQ

Soon we hope to have hearings on the pending war with Iraq. I am concerned there are some questions that won’t be asked- and maybe will not even be allowed to be asked. Here are some questions I would like answered by those who are urging us to start this war.
1. Is it not true that the reason we did not bomb the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War was because we knew they could retaliate?​


2. Is it not also true that we are willing to bomb Iraq now because we know it cannot retaliate- which just confirms that there is no real threat?​


3. Is it not true that those who argue that even with inspections we cannot be sure that Hussein might be hiding weapons, at the same time imply that we can be more sure that weapons exist in the absence of inspections?​


4. Is it not true that the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency was able to complete its yearly verification mission to Iraq just this year with Iraqi cooperation?​


5. Is it not true that the intelligence community has been unable to develop a case tying Iraq to global terrorism at all, much less the attacks on the United States last year? Does anyone remember that 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia and that none came from Iraq?​


6. Was former CIA counter-terrorism chief Vincent Cannistraro wrong when he recently said there is no confirmed evidence of Iraq’s links to terrorism?​


7. Is it not true that the CIA has concluded there is no evidence that a Prague meeting between 9/11 hijacker Atta and Iraqi intelligence took place?​


8. Is it not true that northern Iraq, where the administration claimed al-Qaeda were hiding out, is in the control of our "allies," the Kurds?​


9. Is it not true that the vast majority of al-Qaeda leaders who escaped appear to have safely made their way to Pakistan, another of our so-called allies?​


10. Has anyone noticed that Afghanistan is rapidly sinking into total chaos, with bombings and assassinations becoming daily occurrences; and that according to a recent UN report the al-Qaeda "is, by all accounts, alive and well and poised to strike again, how, when, and where it chooses"?​


11. Why are we taking precious military and intelligence resources away from tracking down those who did attack the United States- and who may again attack the United States- and using them to invade countries that have not attacked the United States?​


12. Would an attack on Iraq not just confirm the Arab world's worst suspicions about the US, and isn't this what bin Laden wanted?​


13. How can Hussein be compared to Hitler when he has no navy or air force, and now has an army 1/5 the size of twelve years ago, which even then proved totally inept at defending the country?​


14. Is it not true that the constitutional power to declare war is exclusively that of the Congress? Should presidents, contrary to the Constitution, allow Congress to concur only when pressured by public opinion? Are presidents permitted to rely on the UN for permission to go to war?​


15. Are you aware of a Pentagon report studying charges that thousands of Kurds in one village were gassed by the Iraqis, which found no conclusive evidence that Iraq was responsible, that Iran occupied the very city involved, and that evidence indicated the type of gas used was more likely controlled by Iran not Iraq?​


16. Is it not true that anywhere between 100,000 and 300,000 US soldiers have suffered from Persian Gulf War syndrome from the first Gulf War, and that thousands may have died?​


17. Are we prepared for possibly thousands of American casualties in a war against a country that does not have the capacity to attack the United States?​


18. Are we willing to bear the economic burden of a 100 billion dollar war against Iraq, with oil prices expected to skyrocket and further rattle an already shaky American economy? How about an estimated 30 years occupation of Iraq that some have deemed necessary to "build democracy" there?​


19. Iraq’s alleged violations of UN resolutions are given as reason to initiate an attack, yet is it not true that hundreds of UN Resolutions have been ignored by various countries without penalty?​


20. Did former President Bush not cite the UN Resolution of 1990 as the reason he could not march into Baghdad, while supporters of a new attack assert that it is the very reason we can march into Baghdad?​


21. Is it not true that, contrary to current claims, the no-fly zones were set up by Britain and the United States without specific approval from the United Nations?​


22. If we claim membership in the international community and conform to its rules only when it pleases us, does this not serve to undermine our position, directing animosity toward us by both friend and foe?​


23. How can our declared goal of bringing democracy to Iraq be believable when we prop up dictators throughout the Middle East and support military tyrants like Musharaf in Pakistan, who overthrew a democratically-elected president?​


24. Are you familiar with the 1994 Senate Hearings that revealed the U.S. knowingly supplied chemical and biological materials to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war and as late as 1992- including after the alleged Iraqi gas attack on a Kurdish village?​


25. Did we not assist Saddam Hussein’s rise to power by supporting and encouraging his invasion of Iran? Is it honest to criticize Saddam now for his invasion of Iran, which at the time we actively supported?​


26. Is it not true that preventive war is synonymous with an act of aggression, and has never been considered a moral or legitimate US policy?​


27. Why do the oil company executives strongly support this war if oil is not the real reason we plan to take over Iraq?​


28. Why is it that those who never wore a uniform and are confident that they won’t have to personally fight this war are more anxious for this war than our generals?​


29. What is the moral argument for attacking a nation that has not initiated aggression against us, and could not if it wanted?​


30. Where does the Constitution grant us permission to wage war for any reason other than self-defense?​


31. Is it not true that a war against Iraq rejects the sentiments of the time-honored Treaty of Westphalia, nearly 400 years ago, that countries should never go into another for the purpose of regime change?​


32. Is it not true that the more civilized a society is, the less likely disagreements will be settled by war?​


33. Is it not true that since World War II Congress has not declared war and- not coincidentally- we have not since then had a clear-cut victory?​


34. Is it not true that Pakistan, especially through its intelligence services, was an active supporter and key organizer of the Taliban?​


35. Why don't those who want war bring a formal declaration of war resolution to the floor of Congress?​
 
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1. Ron Paul is one of the people spreading the North American Union conspiracy.

All he has said about it is that he would not allow it to happen, do you want our tax dollars going to another country.

2. Ron Paul wants to immediately cut and run in Iraq.

You missed the point that he wants to go after Osama Bin Laden, the guy responsible for 9/11, and many other terrorists attacks on us.

3. Ron Paul excused Al-Qaeda's attack on America with this comment about 9/11: "They attack us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years." NOT the man I want as Commander and Chief.

So you don't want someone that actually reads infomation/history, maybe you want someone who will act without thinking, you also missed the point that by Bush's own admission Iraq didn't attack us.

If America was bombed for ten years, how would you feel?

4. Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Jul 2006)

No candiate can be perfect, but I say this, he is in favor of allowing states to make the decisions regarding marriage. This would mean that conservative states will be able to ban gay marriage, while liberal states will be able to let it pass, this is more likely to get passed then a straight ban.

6. Voted NO on reforming the UN by restricting US funding. (Jun 2005)

He wants to end the US involvement in the U.N, that would be a total restriction.

7. Believes Military aggressiveness weakens our national defense. (May 2007)

If you where in another country getting bombed by us, wouldn't you be willing to fight back against the army that is attacking you.

8. Believes Intervention abroad incites hatred & attacks like 9/11. (May 2007)

Only believes that military aggressiveness incites hatred, for that please see above comment.

Some Other Good Things He Has Done:

Voted YES on keeping Cuba travel ban until political prisoners are released.

Voted YES on withholding $244M in UN Back Payments until US seat restored.

Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines.

Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research.

Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research.

No federal funding of abortion, and pro-life.

Voted YES on reducing Marriage Tax by $399B over 10 years.
 
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It should also be noted that while many other candiates tried to kiss up to the Ronald Reagan legacy, Reagan only gave his approval on one candiate.

"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense, as a former Air Force Officer he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first, We need to keep him fighting for our country."

- President Ronald Reagan comments about Ron Paul during his presidency.

You can look this comments up if you don't believe me.
 
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All he has said about it is that he would not allow it to happen, do you want our tax dollars going to another country.

Not true. Ron Paul has spoken out against the so called Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America (SPP). This whole North American Union is a joke and Ron Paul has written about and spoken about it several times. It is pure fabrication and Ron Paul is jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon as he does with so many other things
like his 9/11 garbage.



You missed the point that he wants to go after Osama Bin Laden, the guy responsible for 9/11, and many other terrorists attacks on us.

Whether you agree or disagree with the war is irrelevant. Whether you like Bush or not is irrelevant. The simple facts are we are there and we have to finish what we started. What do you think ramifications are if we just up and run? Ron Paul is not talking a phase out he is talking about a complete pull out.


So you don't want someone that actually reads infomation/history, maybe you want someone who will act without thinking, you also missed the point that by Bush's own admission Iraq didn't attack us.

If America was bombed for ten years, how would you feel?

So we brought it on ourselves????? Give me a break.

No candiate can be perfect, but I say this, he is in favor of allowing states to make the decisions regarding marriage. This would mean that conservative states will be able to ban gay marriage, while liberal states will be able to let it pass, this is more likely to get passed then a straight ban.

Not good enough for me hence why it is one of many reason I will not vote for him.

He wants to end the US involvement in the U.N, that would be a total restriction.

Funny how above you use the argument about gay marriage being more likely to pass if left to the states. So a partial is better than nothing? Does that not pose true for the UN?

If you where in another country getting bombed by us, wouldn't you be willing to fight back against the army that is attacking you.

The thing is the Iraqis are not the ones fighting us.

Only believes that military aggressiveness incites hatred, for that please see above comment.

I disagree. See above comment.

Some Other Good Things He Has Done:

Voted YES on keeping Cuba travel ban until political prisoners are released.

Voted YES on withholding $244M in UN Back Payments until US seat restored.

Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines.

Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research.

Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research.

No federal funding of abortion, and pro-life.

Voted YES on reducing Marriage Tax by $399B over 10 years.

Even Hitler had a few good things ;)
 
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Because todays elected Republicans wouldn't know small government if it came and bit them on the nose. He's the only "true Republican" running and doesn't get the support he deserves because he's not part of the establishment.

To quote Harry Browne (Libertarian Party Candidate in 2000) "Republicans campaign like Libertarians and govern like Democrats."
 
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I must admit some of the replies to this question have left me confused. Ron Paul is easly the best choice for any Christian conservitive voter (and many liberals, but that is a diffrent topic).
One person wrote:
"His slavish devotion to hard currency...for one."
Yes he is a big belever in reinstating hard currency, why is this a problem? It may prove not to be the perfect solution to our currency problems, but it is better than what we have going now.
"Ron Paul is actually a libertarian running as a republican. His biggest sin is in opposing the invasion of Iraq and the Patriot Act.
I won't vote for him because I think he's a little too draconian, but I admire him because he sticks to his principles and is not in politics for monetary gain."
This one I didnt understand at all, while we can agree to disagree about the Iraq war, how could anyone possibly be for the PATRIOT Act? And more importantly how is he in any way draconian??? He belives in freedom to a greater extent than ANY of the other canidates.
Yes, Ron Paul is not perfect, but if you don't think he is the right choice to vote for, who do you think would be better???
 
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There are many reasons I would not vote for Ron Paul. To name a few.

1. Ron Paul is one of the people spreading the North American Union conspiracy.

2. Ron Paul wants to immediately cut and run in Iraq.

3. Ron Paul excused Al-Qaeda's attack on America with this comment about 9/11: "They attack us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years." NOT the man I want as Commander and Chief.

4. Voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. (Jul 2006)

5. Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003)

6. Voted NO on reforming the UN by restricting US funding. (Jun 2005)

7. Believes Military aggressiveness weakens our national defense. (May 2007)

8. Believes Intervention abroad incites hatred & attacks like 9/11. (May 2007)
Think for yourself. Don't let Sean Hannity tell you what to think. Go back and look at Ron Pauls' entire comment about the reason we were attacked on 9/11. The conservative talking heads on radio and TV reduce it down to one sentence and totally distort what he said. I have heard Hannity, Glenn Beck, and a host of others play that sound bite over and over and over again in their attempts to discredit Paul. They're terrified of him. He's the only one actually standing up and sayign something....ANYTHING. All you get from Rudy and Romney is a stream of verbal diarrhea, lies, pandering, and political garbage. They are both George Bush Redux.
 
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Think for yourself. Don't let Sean Hannity tell you what to think. Go back and look at Ron Pauls' entire comment about the reason we were attacked on 9/11. The conservative talking heads on radio and TV reduce it down to one sentence and totally distort what he said. I have heard Hannity, Glenn Beck, and a host of others play that sound bite over and over and over again in their attempts to discredit Paul. They're terrified of him. He's the only one actually standing up and sayign something....ANYTHING. All you get from Rudy and Romney is a stream of verbal diarrhea, lies, pandering, and political garbage. They are both George Bush Redux.

I could say the same for you. Your entire post sounds like a Katie Couric news report.

In the end it is irrelevant as Ron Paul has about as much chance at becoming president as you or I thank God.
 
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