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It was the habit of the early church to date manuscripts earlier then they actually were so the doctrines in said writings would be accepted as coming from an apostle.I’m not familiar with any Christian theologians who put any of Paul’s epistles in the second century. None of the early patristic writings give us this understanding.
That the Lord Jesus came to abolish obedience and promote love.
Yes but in neither the Great Schism nor the Reformation were the Apostolic epistles of St Paul questioned as Sacred Scriptures.
You mean like that thread about a reality show and sexual promiscuity?That the Lord Jesus came to abolish obedience and promote love.
Lol it’s up to 40,000?True but because of the Reformation people started doing what they wanted hence about 40,000 plus denominations now and the new rule CF had to implement
"Not all true things are to be said to all men".It’s a disputed topic over questionable skeptics.
That’s an assertion. I would like to see the evidence for this statement.It was the habit of the early church to date manuscripts earlier then they actually were so the doctrines in said writings would be accepted as coming from an apostle.
Would not that be like a medical doctor not taking into account decades of medical research and trying to diagnose out how to treat us?This is why I need to test what is written to see what fruit comes from the various possible applications.
The only reason there are various denominations today is because there lacked a Church-State government to kill them off. Praise be to God such entities no longer exist and how we conquer souls and error is with the Gospel.True but because of the Reformation people started doing what they wanted hence about 40,000 plus denominations now and the new rule CF had to implement
Going to need something better than a plucked quote from a guy who was not orthodox in theology at times."Not all true things are to be said to all men".
-Clement of Alexandria
It is because of this early church attitude, some information is missing.
Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers is a good site.That’s an assertion. I would like to see the evidence for this statement.
Talk about the Secret Gospel of Mark disappeared around the Gospel of John appeared.Going to need something better than a plucked quote from a guy who was not orthodox in theology at times.
I'm into the fruit, since there are many textual variants, only by the fruit will we know it.Would not that be like a medical doctor not taking into account decades of medical research and trying to diagnose out how to treat us?
And what you described is not Sola Scriptura but “Solo Meo.”
Please point out the portions and make your argument. The majority of Christian theologians put both epistles well before 70 AD. That is from Protestant and Catholic sources.Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers is a good site.
The commentary on 1st and 2nd Thessalonians is a good example.
Please point out the portions and make your argument. The majority of Christian theologians put both epistles well before 70 AD. That is from Protestant and Catholic sources.
Dating the NT
Appendix 8: Chronological Order of the Books of the New Testament - Bible Study Tools
On Dating The New Testament
http://www.scborromeo.org/papers/dating.pdf
More:
Dating The Books Of The New Testament
New Testament Books - Dating
Dating the New Testament
When were the Bible books written?
Timeline of New Testament Books - New Testament Charts (Bible History Online)
Dating The NT
The Authorship And Dating Of The New Testament
What’s the 19th-21st Century theory on this?Talk about the Secret Gospel of Mark disappeared around the Gospel of John appeared.
Gospel of John Mark.
I really wouldn't know, this area of theology is just fun for me, I'm stating this, because you are obviously taking it very seriously and I didn't want to cause too much stress.What’s the 19th-21st Century theory on this?
I must point out these scholars are mostly skeptics, not Christian and hail from the 19th century.Eh, this is more of an armchair convo for me.
Go debate with the scholars that specialize in saying texts are older than church groups say they are.
my point is, their observation makes a lot of sense, that's all.
I am taking this conversation seriously stress free. Why? Because it deals with inspired Holy Scriptures. Inspired Holy Scriptures of the New Testament in which the earliest Christians identified for their Godly attributes.I really wouldn't know, this area of theology is just fun for me, I'm stating this, because you are obviously taking it very seriously and I didn't want to cause too much stress.
To be truthful, the scriptures that I used to study like a madman ejected from my mind and entered my emotions over a decade ago. This resulted in my view of scripture becoming alive, of course at the time this resulted in me fleeing from an angel of death for some time. However, as I took on a more merciful view of scripture, the manifestation of the scripture person was more like myself,I must point out these scholars are mostly skeptics, not Christian and hail from the 19th century.
So I have to ask. Based on skeptic theories, what do you consider inspired Holy Scriptures? What does you canon look like?
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