Why is Jesus the Word?

razeontherock · Nov 12, 2010

cyberlizard said:
I actually like this kabbalistic concept. When I am not a nerd or bible teacher, this construct reminds me of string theory. The idea that everything is made of 'musical' vibrating subatomic strings. I think in this orchestra there are probably 22 notes with multiple octaves.

Does the parallel of 10 dimensions of string theory and 10 commandments speak anything to you? And why 22 notes, is that a quarter tone scale?

Tavita · Nov 12, 2010

simonpeter said:
Shalom!

Why is Jesus referred to as the Word? What is the significance? I can understand 'son of god' and such, but what does it mean to be the Word, and how exactly is the world created through the Word?

Simon

I believe it's because He is the Way, THE TRUTH, and the Life.

It seems whenever the bible speaks about the 'word' it's in reference to 'truth'...

(Psa 119:43) And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth; For I have hoped in thine ordinances.

(Psa 119:142) Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, And thy law is truth.

(Psa 119:160) The sum of thy word is truth; And every one of thy righteous ordinances endureth for ever.

(Pro 8:7) For my mouth shall utter truth; And wickedness is an abomination to my lips.

(Pro 22:21) To make thee know the certainty of the words of truth, That thou mayest carry back words of truth to them that send thee?

(Joh 1:14) And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.

(Joh 8:32) and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

(Joh 14:6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me.

(Joh 15:26) But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall bear witness of me:

(Joh 16:13) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak: and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come.

(Joh 17:17) Sanctify them in the truth: thy word is truth.

Fireinfolding · Nov 12, 2010

I love these too

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life

Psalms 40:7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,

Prov 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

LittleLambofJesus · Nov 12, 2010

razeontherock said:
Does the parallel of 10 dimensions of string theory and 10 commandments speak anything to you? And why 22 notes, is that a quarter tone scale?

LLOJ once again runs to wiki!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory

String theory is a developing theory in particle physics that attempts to reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity.[1]

It is a candidate for the theory of everything (TOE), a manner of describing the known fundamental forces and matter in a mathematically complete system. The theory has yet to make testable experimental predictions, which a theory must do in order to be considered a part of science.

Fireinfolding · Nov 12, 2010

You can see it twofold here, inclusive of both him and his words as he speaks of abiding in Him and in His words

Mark 8:38Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

Same words in "word of truth" here...

2Titus 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

James 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

Ephes 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Chesterton · Nov 12, 2010

LittleLambofJesus said:
LLOJ once again runs to wiki!

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory[/URL]

String Theory explained:

cyberlizard · Nov 12, 2010

razeontherock said:
Does the parallel of 10 dimensions of string theory and 10 commandments speak anything to you? And why 22 notes, is that a quarter tone scale?

22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet.

as to ten dimensions, the jury as out. I am sure CERN will shed more light on this over the coming two or three years. I had not considered that though. Nice one!

Steve

LittleLambofJesus · Nov 12, 2010

Chesterton said:
String Theory explained:

LLOJ tries to "unravel" that complex egnimatic dualism of Yo Yos

And here I thought the Hoola Hoop was complicated

YouTube - Hudsucker Proxy, The (1994) Scene

razeontherock · Nov 12, 2010

cyberlizard said:
22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet.

as to ten dimensions, the jury as out. I am sure CERN will shed more light on this over the coming two or three years. I had not considered that though. Nice one!

I worked it out, a 1/4 tone scale would have 23 notes, BUT we could slice it up in some more Jewish tuning rather than our Western and easily arrive at 22 and give it more L'chiem! Anyway everything about string theory lines up PERFECTLY with not only the Bible but G-d's own Nature; no conflicts IMHO. I won't state any opinion on 10 dimensions, but as an intellectual exercise wrapping your head around them is fun ...

ivebeenshown · Nov 12, 2010

I thought 11-dimensional M-Theory was what it was called. What's the eleventh commandment then?

razeontherock · Nov 12, 2010

The perfect law of liberty. The 10 dimensional idea I worked through claimed no more were possible, as all possibilities were exhausted. Now I gotta work through M-theory too?!? Makes me think the first 10 are all different?

Tavita · Nov 12, 2010

Fireinfolding said:
You can see it twofold here, inclusive of both him and his words as he speaks of abiding in Him and in His words

Mark 8:38Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

Same words in "word of truth" here...

2Titus 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

James 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

Ephes 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Hi Fire!!!

Love that verse...

James 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

In the ASV..

Jas 1:18 Of his own will he ~ brought us forth~ by ~ the word of truth ~, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

Here's more..

Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.

A quote by a good friend of mine...

The instant we believe the Truth, the Word becomes flesh in us!
The TRUTH comes into existence through US, and God lives IN US, BY US, WITH US, and we Contemplate his Glory as the Only Child of God, full of grace and truth.

Fireinfolding · Nov 12, 2010

Tavita said:
Hi Fire!!!

Love that verse...

James 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

In the ASV..

Jas 1:18 Of his own will he ~ brought us forth~ by ~ the word of truth ~, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

Here's more..

Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.

A quote by a good friend of mine...

The instant we believe the Truth, the Word becomes flesh in us!
The TRUTH comes into existence through US, and God lives IN US, BY US, WITH US, and we Contemplate his Glory as the Only Child of God, full of grace and truth.

Hey Tavita!! I didnt even reccognice you at first, dang, these avatars become like faces you dont reccognize! lol Love the new one, Long time no see! Great verses sis!

razeontherock · Nov 12, 2010

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active" - ESV

cyberlizard · Nov 13, 2010

I had a copy of the complete works of Richard Feynman and like Albert Einstein, I am convinced that God does not play dice and also that anyone who thinks they truly understand the intricacies of quantum physics has not really understood or considered deeply enough what they are saying. To fully understand it would lead to one losing his mind (in all truth). I think the ToE is just to big to comprehend.

Steve

LittleLambofJesus · Nov 13, 2010

razeontherock said:
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active" - ESV

http://www.christianforums.com/t7426625-13/#post53978595
Hebrews 4:12

Hebrew 4:12 For living the Word of YWVH and in-working/energhV <1756> and keener over every blade/knife/macairan <3162> two-mouthed,
and penetrating to parting of soul and of spirit, joints besides and marrows, and judge of feelings and of in-minds/thoughts of heart

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