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Why is God good?

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Hello,

I'm looking for an explanation as to why is God good. In Christianity God is basically good by definition. There isn't a possible world in which God isn't God. Goodness in essential to God. God's nature doesn't just happen to be "good", it's that goodness is inherent to God.

But what I ask is what reasoning is used to arrive at the conclusion that God is good? In other words, why is God good? Also, I'm looking for a more of a philosophical argument, not direct-revelation based one.

God bless,

Emanuel
 

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Hello,

I'm looking for an explanation as to why is God good. In Christianity God is basically good by definition. There isn't a possible world in which God isn't God. Goodness in essential to God. God's nature doesn't just happen to be "good", it's that goodness is inherent to God.

But what I ask is what reasoning is used to arrive at the conclusion that God is good? In other words, why is God good? Also, I'm looking for a more of a philosophical argument, not direct-revelation based one.

God bless,

Emanuel

To me, this question seems nonsensical (I don't mean that as an insult).

It's like asking, "Why is God all-powerful?", or "Why is God all-knowing?".

Let's say for the sake of discussion that God does indeed exist and He is indeed all-powerful, to name one attribute. At that point, asking why God is all-powerful becomes an irrelevant question, doesn't it? To use another example, it's like asking why does God exist? One could respond by saying because He's a necessary being, but that doesn't answer the question, because then somebody could ask, "Why is God a necessary being?" See, eventually, the questions become nonsensical. There comes a point when you just need to accept God and His nature.

However, I have pondered your question before and can give you a sketch of what I think. When I imagine a necessary sentient being (a being who cannot fail to exist) who created all of reality outside of Himself, I quickly realize that such a being couldn't be evil in any objective sense. God is either objectively good and I'm objectively evil, or God is objectively good and I'm objectively good too, but God could never be objectively evil, since moral values are grounded in the very nature of God. Put another way, God is the cosmic measuring stick by which everything else is measured, so how could He evil? Even if you yourself thought God were evil, all that would mean is you think God is evil relative to your own moral opinion. However, your moral opinion is based on your contingent and limited mind, which is the creation of God who is a perfect being, and thus doesn't carry much weight. Moreover, it's downright foolish to believe that you can derive a morality or rationality that is superior to God's using your God-given morality and rationality! That'd be like sawing off the branch that you're standing on.

I'm going to go back to the ontology of moral values for a moment because I need to clarify something. Moral values are grounded in the nature of God. So when people speak of objective evil and good, what they mean is moral conduct relative to God's nature. And since "good" is what ought to be done, it makes absolutely no sense to say God, the basis of moral values, is evil. You could say, however, that you disagree with God's values (or nature), but that would translates to you being objectively evil--or your behavior being objectively evil (scary stuff...).

I apologize if I wasn't very articulate. I tried.
 
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Why is God good?
Why indeed!??! It is his nature, it is Who and What He is... and oh I'm so thankful for His loving kindnesses and mercy and grace that He extends towards me!
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Who can understand God? Could even Solomon? Or David---a man after God's own heart!? Did Saul even after having met Jesus?

All I know is He is good. And no evil or badness can emanate from anything that is pure good and truth.
 
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Hello,

I'm looking for an explanation as to why is God good. In Christianity God is basically good by definition. There isn't a possible world in which God isn't God. Goodness in essential to God. God's nature doesn't just happen to be "good", it's that goodness is inherent to God.

But what I ask is what reasoning is used to arrive at the conclusion that God is good? In other words, why is God good? Also, I'm looking for a more of a philosophical argument, not direct-revelation based one.

God bless,

Emanuel

Read Plato's Republic, book I. Socrates explains it all.
 
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Hello,

I'm looking for an explanation as to why is God good. In Christianity God is basically good by definition. There isn't a possible world in which God isn't God. Goodness in essential to God. God's nature doesn't just happen to be "good", it's that goodness is inherent to God.

But what I ask is what reasoning is used to arrive at the conclusion that God is good? In other words, why is God good? Also, I'm looking for a more of a philosophical argument, not direct-revelation based one.

God bless,

Emanuel
You're asking for a philosophical response when the only one I can see that answers this question is the one you already posted! God is necessarily good, meaning there is no other world in which God is not good. We don't know why specifically that is, and nor do I think we could ever arrive at a reason.

Does that make the original idea of God being necessarily good unreasonable? If so, then why?
 
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In other words, why is God good? Also, I'm looking for a more of a philosophical argument, not direct-revelation based one.
That's an impossible request. We can only base our knowledge of God on His own direct revelation of who He is through His Son, Jesus Christ. Philosophy has nothing to do with it. Without the authority of the Bible, any attempt to explain God’s attributes would be no better than an opinion, which by itself is often incorrect, especially in understanding God. The question can't be answered as you have framed it.
 
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Hopefully without appearing to be heretical....I'll share more.

Perhaps God, in His infinite wisdom, knew that being a Good God was superior to being a Bad God? Perhaps God, in His relentless Lovingkindness, knew how people needed a Good God? Perhaps God, also in his knowledge realized that people needed direction and correction but learned these best when immersed in goodness? Perhaps God, in omniscience, didn't create bad in the very first place because it was--well--- bad.
 
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Hello,

I'm looking for an explanation as to why is God good. In Christianity God is basically good by definition. There isn't a possible world in which God isn't God. Goodness in essential to God. God's nature doesn't just happen to be "good", it's that goodness is inherent to God.

But what I ask is what reasoning is used to arrive at the conclusion that God is good? In other words, why is God good? Also, I'm looking for a more of a philosophical argument, not direct-revelation based one.

God bless,

Emanuel

Good or not good does not apply to God. There is only: for God, or against God. So, the correct way to say it is: "WE" are either good or bad.

And, we make definition: For God --> good.

Remind you, when God makes Adam, he does not know what is good or is bad. Because there is no need to know that.
 
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Good or not good does not apply to God. There is only: for God, or against God. So, the correct way to say it is: "WE" are either good or bad.

And, we make definition: For God --> good.

Remind you, when God makes Adam, he does not know what is good or is bad. Because there is no need to know that.


Hmmmm
and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.


American King James Version
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God:
 
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Hopefully without appearing to be heretical....I'll share more.

Perhaps God, in His infinite wisdom, knew that being a Good God was superior to being a Bad God? Perhaps God, in His relentless Lovingkindness, knew how people needed a Good God? Perhaps God, also in his knowledge realized that people needed direction and correction but learned these best when immersed in goodness? Perhaps God, in omniscience, didn't create bad in the very first place because it was--well--- bad.

Of all the billions and billions of people that have lived and died, what percentage of "us" have actually experienced a miracle, or have actually seen a manifestation of the God of Abraham?

It's an infinitesimal percentage isn't it?
 
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Without taking the thread off topic... I will try and answer
I daresay everyone in the world has seen at least one of God's miracles. Some are so obvious, but might be muddled under science, and most are considered "just" coincidences ( like accidents that don't require a Sovereign GOOD God). ;)
 
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Ah, but you see, god is ALWAYS good, no matter what happens.
God is always good.

For example:

Timmy is a nice young kid on his hike to school. He is a Christian and is devout to god just like his family. But oh nos! A car hits Timmy!

Scenario A
Timmy comes unscathed from this meeting with the bumper. God is good for saving Timmy's life, for he obviously would have died without Gods help. God is good.

Scenario B
Timmy is badly injured and needs to go to the hospital. When he gets out of there he is in a wheelchair. But Timmy is not sad for God was good to save his life, and Timmy is ready play his part in the plan that God has for him. God is good.

Scenario C
Timmy dies. But that is okay, for he is in a better place now. God did not intervene with the free will down on Earth and calls Timmy to join him in Heaven. God is good.

See? ( < staff edit> )
 
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