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Not sure.
That is why I am on this thread, to learn more about Darwinism.
Let me go back to the original OP
[Had to go back 4 pages from here to find what the original OP said.]
http://www.christianforums.com/t7818683-101/
Not yet....I went back and read the OP. It isn't.
Perhaps the title should have been "why is science so dangerous?".
It does prompt me to ask, is your faith so fragile?
Originally Posted by Strato
Having just browsed the Creationism/Evolution thread over at Christian Forums it seems to me the whole debate is a red herring.
Creationism has nothing to do with science. It parades itself as science but is a perversion of science. It is spurious; deep down it has contempt for science.
The propounding of creationism by the likes of Ken Ham is not to assert the authority and veracity of scripture, as the Word of God, on the origins of the cosmos and of life on earth, (with humans being the crown of creation), as it purports to do. Not at all, or not principally, anyway.
The Eden myth which the Hebrew tribe borrowed from the Babylonians and appropriated with their genealogical fabrication, provides the basis for the Christian doctrine of sin, hamartiology.
If sin, through the 'Fall' didn't infect the species Homo sapiens after all, now that Darwin went and published his dangerous idea, which has never been falsified, only ever verified, despite the great pains Ham et al have gone to, then the salvation work wrought by Jesus on Calvary's cross, was actually quite unnecessary.
So they have to prop up Genesis with 'Creation Science' (what an oxymoron), at all costs.
It sure has a lot of people caught up in the details within the debate, as though it's an issue worth discussing.
Creationism isn't anything to do with science. It is 'apologetics' in christianese, defending the Faith, though they'll never admit this.
I did express all this in a post once. I thought I might start this thread, so titled, provocative to Christian lurkers.
Rock on comrades.
Yes, atheism is a religion,
a Godless religion whos adherents are vocal, demanding (there's that word again) and inflexible.
From Wikipedia.....
"A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence."
It would appear that people really don't understand what fundamentalism is.
"Fundamentalism is the demand for a strict adherence to orthodox theological doctrines usually understood as a reaction against Modernist theology.[1] The term "fundamentalism" was originally coined by its supporters to describe five specific classic theological beliefs of Christianity, and that developed into a movement within the Protestant community of the United States in the early part of the 20th century, and that had its roots in the FundamentalistModernist Controversy of that time."
Last I checked, I have not required anyone to adhere to any orthodox theology or doctrine. I am certainly not requiring strict adherence to christian theology.
Aren't you promoting the philosophy of atheism though?
"Fudie" isn't a term which is only applicable to Christians, it's applicable to any follower of any philosophical view which demands strict adherence to their "beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence."
No, it's not. Religions have deities and beliefs. Atheism has neither. Try again.
Since when is being vocal, demanding, and inflexible the same as a religion?
Atheism is a lack of belief.
No, religions do not necessarily have deities. Yes, both Christianity and atheism has philosophical beliefs of life.
Being vocal, demanding and inflexible is fundamentalism.
I disagree. Atheism has a philosophical view of life which yields their belief concerning life.
There is no philosophy of atheism.
Fundamentalism is a religious view as a reaction to modernist theologies. Atheism is not a religion, a theology, or a philosophy.
All you are trying to do is drag people down in the mud with you.
Sure it is. One's life philosophy is shaped by their view of God, lack of God, purpose in life, ect.
Fundamentalism is a mindset concerning one's philosophical views.
Ouch!
You make too much sense.
Atheism is not a philosophy, no matter how you try to twist the English language. It is simply the lack of belief in deities. That's it. What philosophies atheists may or may not have is independent of atheism. If you brought together 20 atheists you would probably get 20 different philosophical views of life. Saying that atheism is a philosophical view on life is like saying that not believing in the Easter Bunny is a philosophical view on life.
No it isn't. If that were the case, then EVERYONE would be a fundamentalist since everyone has philosophical views.
That is the entire purpose of such statements, is it not? When you say that evolution is nothing more than faith you are trying to drag evolution down to your level, are you not? When you call evolution a type of creationism you are doing the same, are you not?
Sure it is. One's life philosophy is shaped by their view of God, lack of God, purpose in life, ect. Atheism's philosophy of life, from Wikipedia....
"Axiological, or constructive, atheism rejects the existence of gods in favor of a "higher absolute", such as humanity. This form of atheism favors humanity as the absolute source of ethics and values, and permits individuals to resolve moral problems without resorting to God."
Atheism is not a philosophy, no matter how you try to twist the English language. It is simply the lack of belief in deities. That's it. What philosophies atheists may or may not have is independent of atheism. If you brought together 20 atheists you would probably get 20 different philosophical views of life. Saying that atheism is a philosophical view on life is like saying that not believing in the Easter Bunny is a philosophical view on life.
No it isn't. If that were the case, then EVERYONE would be a fundamentalist since everyone has philosophical views.
That is the entire purpose of such statements, is it not? When you say that evolution is nothing more than faith you are trying to drag evolution down to your level, are you not? When you call evolution a type of creationism you are doing the same, are you not?
To be clear, that paragraph refers to "Axiological, or constructive atheism", which could be seen as humanism.
"Atheism" in itself is only a theological position on deities.
Don't worry about it.
Some need to convince themselves that atheism is a philosophy of life and also convince themselves that it is also on par with their beliefs, which are religion based.
It's all part of the defense mechanism of some and quite necessary to protect their own beliefs. It is both predictable and quite amusing to watch.
Of course one's view of no deities shapes their life philosophies.
It's not just about philosophical views. It's about behavior concerning those philosophical views. There are fundies in every philosophical view, including atheism.
The teaching of Darwinism is a creationist view. In Darwinism, humanity is created by a series of impetuses acting upon a single life form from long long ago. The infinite complexity and variety of life was created entirely, totally, completely, only, solely by naturalistic mechanisms according to Darwinist creationist teachings.
Actually, I think having an opinion makes you a fundamentalist, in their eyes.
It's impossible for atheism not to influence one's philosophy of life.
It's impossible for atheism not to influence one's philosophy of life.
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