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Why is Christianity so mysterious and self-contradictory?
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<blockquote data-quote="Alistair_Wonderland" data-source="post: 76457579" data-attributes="member: 408856"><p>As a pessimist, I can assure you that perception is key. We see what we are inclined to see. People who believe the world is a terrible place will see the bad and ignore the good. (Speaking form experience here.)</p><p></p><p>However, there is validity to your argument. I believe God is supreme; his followers, on the other hand, have been a motley, messed-up group full of crazy ideas from the start. (How many times did Jesus have to correct His own disciples, after all?)</p><p>It is easier to say that something is God's will rather than blame our own negligence as His hands. Much of the evil that exists in the world exists because of the negligence of others.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>While I hardly think I am gifted enough to explain the question of why suffering exists (many more intelligent people than I have debated the question), my humble opinion is summed up in this:</p><p>1: Life is like a vaccine. We suffer a little now so that we may learn form our mistakes in a non-eternal setting.</p><p>2: Without free will, there is no love. With free will, there is the option for mistakes. With mistakes comes cause-and-effect, which leads to harm and pain. Love and free will therefore cannot exist without the possibility of pain. (Point 1 repeats itself here.)</p><p>3:You are assuming the desires we have down here are entirely wrong; they rarely are. Rather, they are often just a bit skewed, enough so to cause us harm. Very often, our desires reflect, like a broken mirror, good and godly desires. One example would be how Christians seem to villainize sexual desire, when the Bible actually celebrates it in the Song of Solomon. Not all your desires are wrong. God made rules to protect us from harmful activities, nothing more. And who knows? Perhaps in Heaven, that which would be sin here, because of the harm it would cause, may not be so there.</p><p>4: The only choice you have to make between Heaven and Hell is choosing Jesus as your savior. all other actions are an act of love, a natural response to trying to do your best to be your best for someone you care about (that someone being God). And God's pretty lenient with mistakes; in fact, He already took them all on Himself, and washed them away. The only choice you have to make is to hand them over to Him and say "Man, I need help. Mind giving me a hand?"</p><p></p><p>Sorry if I blather. I just want to give you a clear view of what I think, and whether or not you agree, it will at least give you something to consider.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alistair_Wonderland, post: 76457579, member: 408856"] As a pessimist, I can assure you that perception is key. We see what we are inclined to see. People who believe the world is a terrible place will see the bad and ignore the good. (Speaking form experience here.) However, there is validity to your argument. I believe God is supreme; his followers, on the other hand, have been a motley, messed-up group full of crazy ideas from the start. (How many times did Jesus have to correct His own disciples, after all?) It is easier to say that something is God's will rather than blame our own negligence as His hands. Much of the evil that exists in the world exists because of the negligence of others. While I hardly think I am gifted enough to explain the question of why suffering exists (many more intelligent people than I have debated the question), my humble opinion is summed up in this: 1: Life is like a vaccine. We suffer a little now so that we may learn form our mistakes in a non-eternal setting. 2: Without free will, there is no love. With free will, there is the option for mistakes. With mistakes comes cause-and-effect, which leads to harm and pain. Love and free will therefore cannot exist without the possibility of pain. (Point 1 repeats itself here.) 3:You are assuming the desires we have down here are entirely wrong; they rarely are. Rather, they are often just a bit skewed, enough so to cause us harm. Very often, our desires reflect, like a broken mirror, good and godly desires. One example would be how Christians seem to villainize sexual desire, when the Bible actually celebrates it in the Song of Solomon. Not all your desires are wrong. God made rules to protect us from harmful activities, nothing more. And who knows? Perhaps in Heaven, that which would be sin here, because of the harm it would cause, may not be so there. 4: The only choice you have to make between Heaven and Hell is choosing Jesus as your savior. all other actions are an act of love, a natural response to trying to do your best to be your best for someone you care about (that someone being God). And God's pretty lenient with mistakes; in fact, He already took them all on Himself, and washed them away. The only choice you have to make is to hand them over to Him and say "Man, I need help. Mind giving me a hand?" Sorry if I blather. I just want to give you a clear view of what I think, and whether or not you agree, it will at least give you something to consider. [/QUOTE]
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