laurie2777
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Ok then.. If evolution no longer holds to the big bang theory.. what is it's claim?..
If you're going to reply..please..just a short simplified version.
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What does the big bang have to do with evolution.
You keep showing your lack of knowledge, yet you are certain it is all a lie. Quite a trick.
There are millions of evangelical Christians who doubt evolution... forgive me if you think many overstates millions.
Is there doubt of evolution based on providing scientific explanations that place evolution in doubt, or is is based on evolution threatening their personal faith belief?
In certain cases, there is the question of if someone is writing while under the influence.
And there are sober people who are just bluffing; therefore, one might just keep bluffing, or give a reference which even says not a word about your question or point > bluff and run-around.
And there's the claim that certain calculations have been made, and you can't understand unless you know advanced trig or whatever.
But I have read someone's clear explanation of things I brought up, which no one else came close to explaining . . . though the explanation included some required assumptions. But that one might have also said there were some very highly technical discoveries made, which I could not understand; and so I'd have to just take the person's word for it. But I can't prove someone is not lying.
What interests me, about someone's evolutionary theory, is the person's "therefores". What do you do because of your belief?
Possibly someone believes in having and being more than others; and so he or she is willing to accept the concept of "survival of the fittest".
But someone else could appreciate how species can be very highly dependent on each other . . . with need even for very weak species, such as fish which clean the mouths even of predators. Someone into sharing and helping might see evolution as being survival of the sharing and helping, and appreciate how differences can mean more various resources.
In law, there are different sorts of evidence > including "circumstantial" which is not acceptable, also false evidence which has been rigged or contaminated, and forensic evidence which can have one or more interpretations, and actual witnessed evidence; yet, even eyewitness evidence can be misunderstood.
So, can you present on this thread one item of proof evidence, here - - not a run-around or bluff of some link or claim??
I do not know of any breakthrough benefit which has come from believing in some theory of evolution.
I do not know of any breakthrough benefit which has come from believing in some theory of evolution.
Good luck telling that to people who work in medicine.
Please show us where in the scientific theories God does anything that is detectable or testable. You could do it for plasma physics if you want. How does God cause plasma to redshift light? How is God a part of the process of absorbance and emission?
In other words, you have no evidence.
You're making a misleading claim. Darwinist evolution's claim that all life is the result of only random, mindless, meaningless, purposeless and goalless mechanism doesn't drive medical research. Medical research conducted on such a process would result in failure time after time after time.
Shhhh, you are not supposed to present facts, just Fairie Dust.
Can you write here one example of how any idea of evolution has produced a breakthrough in medicine?I do not know of any breakthrough benefit which has come from believing in some theory of evolution.
Good luck telling that to people who work in medicine.
Again, the atheist here must isolate God and throw Him into the realm of causation just like their own flawed arguments. This is a perfect example of the limited worldview that the atheist takes in order to understand God. No Christian that I know has ever claimed to understand God and His infinite knowledge and power. We simply have faith. On the other hand an atheist must, for their own satisfaction, try to understand God based on the known knowledge of science - eg. the causation clause. But it was Jesus Himself that said He is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. God exists. Always have and always will exist. He is timeless. This is again, inconceivable to the non-believer and yet you only need faith to believe in it.
The atheist will always say that the burden of proof is on us Christians to prove the existence of God.
The apostle Paul had a great counter to this when he said, "For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things." Romans 1:19-23.
The only difference is today, science is the new god for atheists. Hiding behind the "facts of evolution" and empirical evidence, they overlook how it is that Natural Law exists or how fossils show extinction and not evolution.
Atheists overlook the awesomeness of our exact location in our solar system; how if we were just one planet over to the sun, we would burn up or if we were one planet farther, we would freeze to death. What about the composition of our atmosphere? How is it our oxygen levels are perfect for sustaining life? If our oxygen was just a few parts less O2, we would suffocate...or if there was more than 21% 02, we would combust. How do scientists explain the anthropic principle?
Again, the atheist would love to separate evolution from the origins of the universe. Why is that? Why must there be a separation?
Could it be to fulfill their very narrow-minded and frankly, dogmatic view of life in the universe?
Apart from non-belief in deities, name an atheist dogma.
Can you write here one example of how any idea of evolution has produced a breakthrough in medicine?
Thank goodness the schools are including the evidence at younger ages. I didn't know a thing about genetics or physical anthropology until I was in college.
Education, is the kryptonite, for biblical creationists beliefs.
I think children will begin to learn about evolution at an earlier age once the Disney movie about Charles Darwin comes out in a couple of years. I'm sure there will be educational science books that will accompany the film, and hopefully teachers will seize on the opportunity to present material connected to a movie that has captivated the interest of kids.
My eight and nine-year-old sisters are already impressively knowledgable about evolution thanks to their excellent science classes, our family's trips to world-class museums, and some wonderful books. I first learned about evolution when I was seven from visiting a fantastic museum in Sydney, Australia, and then following it up with visits to museums in the United States in my elementary school years. My first science class on it was when I was in the sixth grade. I went to a Christian school, but of course they fully accept evolution. I've only ever had science teachers with the sufficient education and experience to knowledgeably teach their students.
Yep. Some seem to take pride in the immutability of their beliefs and to keep their minds impenetrable to any knowledge from a non-Creationist perspective. I was discussing the Biblical interpretation classes I've taken, and how they in tandem to my science education have furthered my belief that there is no conflict between evolution and my faith with a Young Earth Creationist recently. She immediately waved it off and said she'd never trust education from Stanford. Never mind that the professor of the Biblical interpretation class is a Christian who taught at Duke's Divinity School for longer than we've been alive; he's never taught at a Bible college that believes in YEC.
I think children will begin to learn about evolution at an earlier age once the Disney movie about Charles Darwin comes out in a couple of years. I'm sure there will be educational science books that will accompany the film, and hopefully teachers will seize on the opportunity to present material connected to a movie that has captivated the interest of kids.
My eight and nine-year-old sisters are already impressively knowledgable about evolution thanks to their excellent science classes, our family's trips to world-class museums, and some wonderful books. I first learned about evolution when I was seven from visiting a fantastic museum in Sydney, Australia, and then following it up with visits to museums in the United States in my elementary school years. My first science class on it was when I was in the sixth grade. I went to a Christian school, but of course they fully accept evolution. I've only ever had science teachers with the sufficient education and experience to knowledgeably teach their students.
Yep. Some seem to take pride in the immutability of their beliefs and to keep their minds impenetrable to any knowledge from a non-Creationist perspective. I was discussing the Biblical interpretation classes I've taken, and how they in tandem to my science education have furthered my belief that there is no conflict between evolution and my faith with a Young Earth Creationist recently. She immediately waved it off and said she'd never trust education from Stanford. Never mind that the professor of the Biblical interpretation class is a Christian who taught at Duke's Divinity School for longer than we've been alive; he's never taught at a Bible college that believes in YEC.
Disney is doing a movie about Darwin?
Wow, the fundies are going to be angry about that.
Disney is doing a movie about Darwin?
Wow, the fundies are going to be angry about that.
You didn't answer my question. What does the big bang have to do with evolution?
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