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geocajun said:Bingo. It's one thing to demonstrate that a priest or bishop has sinned against the faith. We've seen plenty of cheap shots taken at our Church clergy for the sex scanal, even though i've demonstrated this problem exists within the eastern orthodox church as well. Did that get any mea-culpa's from the EO here? no of course not.. but I digress.
What we have not seen here however, is any evidence that the Catholic Church has failed to keep the integrity of the faith in tact. We keep the faith that has been handed down by the Apostles themselves.
We have seen however, a failed attempt by our EO brethren to prove they have kept the teaching of the Church in tact, particularly on the matter of divorce and contraception. Instead we've all witnessed a false mercy which simply ignores sin under the pretense that sacraments can be 'forgiven' (whatever that means).
So on the one hand, we've seen that Catholic Clerics were persecuted for the sins of a few (~2% of priests are guilty), even though the exact same thing happens in the EO Church which was never acknowledged (or denied) but the faith is intact, even though some clergy aren't good examples of following it.
On the other hand, we've seen an demonstration of false mercy in order to justify the permitting of multiple marriages among EO lay men & women, and the same to justify permitting contraception if their confessors conscience allows for it (whatever thats all about).
So here I believe we've seen the gates of hell prevail in teachings on faith and morals. This is the fruit, and the lack of Magisterial Authority to fix it within the EO Church is why we find the mantra "come, experience the mystery of our faith" pronounced so often.
CaDan said:BINGO! We have a BINGO!
Hold your cards while we check . . . .
vanshan said:I know you believe you are a righteous avenger of Christ, but do you think your methods carry with them the fragrance of Christ? It's clear from many reponses you are getting from people on here that you have a notorious reputation for being argumentative. I know of no saints who had this trait. There were those who humbly maintained the truth, even to the point of exile or death, but they were never recorded as being canonized for displays of aggression . . . maybe your Roman Catholic saints are different, but please, be kind.
Basil
And? This dissloves covenants with God?Polycarp1 said:"GOD, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."
--attributed to Francis of Assisi
"Neither do I condemn you; go, and sin no more." -- our Lord Jesus Christ
"He has shown you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God?" -- Micah
"There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy; who are you, to judge another?" -- St. James of Jerusalem, Brother of our Lord
"Where children pure and happy pray to the blessèd Child,
Where misery cries out to Thee, Son of the mother mild;
Where charity stands watching and faith holds wide the door,
The dark night wakes, the glory breaks, and Christmas comes once more.
"O holy Child of Bethlehem, descend to us, we pray;
Cast out our sin, and enter in, be born in us today.
We hear the Christmas angels the great glad tidings tell;
O come to us, abide with us, our Lord Emmanuel!"
-- Phillips Brooks, Bishop of Massachusetts
but maybe it would be better to focus on answering our questions rather than worrying about our persons.
me me me me meCaDan said:May the peace of God,
Which passes all human understanding,
Keep our hearts and minds,
On Christ Jesus.
Is anybody gonna eat that last piece of baklava?
Seems that will never change Jim .... although both sides of this issue know it is against God's purposeJimfromOhio said:I am back.... I see that you all are still here !!
debiwebi said:me me me me me
10 POSTS of trying to get them to stop!debiwebi 10
CaDan said:All yours (you were too late, Jim!)
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