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You might be interested to learn that eye witness testimony, despite being so popular with jurors, is one of the least reliable forms of evidence that is used in courts of law.
You may be interested to read, for example, this excellent article about the problems with eyewitness testimony. Or this section of the Wikipedia article about witnesses. Each cite several studies which show that witnesses are not nearly as useful as you'd like to think.
Human memory is, unfortunately, painfully flawed.
with abortion of adult americans? Thats something i don´t understand.
Isn´t that bigot to demonstrate against abortion and at the same time to support death penalty?
Just a quick question, PastorJim, if I wrote a book, about life on a universe that God told me was named 'Stan' (a separate universe from the one we live on), where people called Stanians live, you would think this book was reliable (and true) until someone proved otherwise?
You're missing the point. The point wasn't that court witnesses are always reliable, but that, in the absence of evidence that they're unreliable, we presume that they are reliable.
You can peacefully exist with some of the people who A)you don't kill with abortion and B)people who accept abortion as legitimate practice.
Abortion is about as legitimate a practice as gassing Jews. If you read an embryology textbook we see that is objective, scientific fact that an embryo is a new life and a distinct individual of our species. To kill it is murder. The only question that remains is: are you going try to justify that murder or not?Well if you think it's impossible to peacefully co-exist and write it off as a lost cause because you don't tolerate the practices of others, perhaps all the hardcore intolerant pro-lifers should just hop on a rocket and make a colony on the moon?
Abortion is about as legitimate a practice as gassing Jews. If you read an embryology textbook we see that is objective, scientific fact that an embryo is a new life and a distinct individual of our species. To kill it is murder. The only question that remains is: are you going try to justify that murder or not?
Death penalty is for someone who have commited a terrible crime against someone else and is guilty
Abortion is execution of someone who hasn't commited any crime, has had no due process(unlike the criminal who at least had one) and is innocent.
Abortion is about as legitimate a practice as gassing Jews. If you read an embryology textbook we see that is objective, scientific fact that an embryo is a new life and a distinct individual of our species. To kill it is murder. The only question that remains is: are you going try to justify that murder or not?
Well if you think it's impossible to peacefully co-exist and write it off as a lost cause because you don't tolerate the practices of others, perhaps all the hardcore intolerant pro-lifers should just hop on a rocket and make a colony on the moon?
Does the foetus mind?
You can't ask a fetus. That may seem like the point to you, but the problem is you can't just kill people because they can't defend themselves and aren't valued, and call that a peaceful society.
Suppose a homeless man is killed painlessly in a forest reserve. He never has a chance to say he doesn't want to die, and no one desired him. This situation is very similar.
No, unnatural procedures need not be legislated in the same way, you are comparing apples and oranges. Blood and organs don't naturally transfer themselves between individuals.
Right, except that the right to do what you want with your body stops short of harming another's body. In this case the fetal person.
In regards to the death penalty compared to abortion, the fetus has done nothing to deserve death. Killing the fetus is the same as murder from the pro-life view, and so it is a crime punishable by the death penalty to many (not all) pro-lifers. In regards to the abortion debate I will say only this, if the new, redefined liberals of today were debating the abortion of an endangered animal, would they be so full of debate?
It is the abortion industry that politicians really seek to protect, not the welfare or rights of women.
Women suffer mentally and physically for abortions.
Most women who get abortions never make the same mistake again,
and they don't know what they are getting into when they do. They can be forgiven, but take a woman who gets abortion after abortion and there you have someone who doesn't seem to likely to ever know remorse or repentance. Abortion is a tragedy that most people do not know enough about to make the decision to be pro-life, but that too is changing. Abortion is less common today than when first introduced,
and I should add it has ALWAYS been a problem. Abortions have been committed throughout history, the difference today than in the past was that the medical community viewed it as a problem. Today the abortion industry is inappropriately considered part of the medical community.
Forcing a medical procedure is very different than not allowing one.Whether a process is "natural" or artificial has no bearing on its normative value; you can't derive an "ought" from an "is." The fact that organ transplants and blood transfusions are "artificial" processes and pregnancy is a "natural" one is irrelevant to this discussion. Should the state have a right to force compatible donors to undergo medical procedures to provide blood, tissue, or organs to patients who would die without them?
Sure -- if the pregnant endangered animal were sapient, and capable of articulating that it did not wish to be pregnant.
Support this statement with evidence, or retract it.
And from unplanned pregnancies.
Presumably because they have learned how important it is to protect themselves from unplanned pregnancy.
Thanks, in large part, to increased availability of and information about effective contraception.
How else would one categorize the practice of licensed medical professionals who perform medical procedures?
Is the homeless man living inside of another human?No, assume he was terminated by a hiker.
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