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Why hasn't Jesus come back yet?
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<blockquote data-quote="GrayAngel" data-source="post: 59925520" data-attributes="member: 162431"><p>Actually, there is such a thing as Messianic Jews, and they accept the obvious fact that Jesus was the Messiah who was prophesied in the Old Testament. The other Jews will keep on waiting.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You need to remove your Pentecostal status, because you are clearly not a Pentecostal. Right now, I'm having doubts that you are even a Christian.</p><p></p><p>You obviously don't know what quick means. Try reading the Bible once and a while, then maybe you'll know enough to start talking about it. Jesus never put a time table on His return. The predictions made of events which would occur would require a long period of time to occur. There is absolutely no indication that Jesus believed He would return by <em>your</em> definition of soon.</p><p></p><p>For example:</p><p></p><p><u><strong>2 Thessalonians 2:3</strong></u> - <em>Dont let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day [the day of judgement] will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.</em></p><p></p><p>The rebellion/falling away/apostasy is the abandonment of truth by the church. It would take time before the church would decay to such a degree. Now, 2000 years later, it is happening. Churches are no longer standing by the Bible. You are evidence of this. However, there are still some churches that attempt to follow the Bible, so I'm not sure the apostasy is complete yet.</p><p></p><p>Also, as I've alluded to earlier:</p><p></p><p><u><strong>Matthew 24:3-14</strong></u> - <em>As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. Tell us, they said, when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Jesus answered: Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, I am the Messiah, and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.</em></p><p></p><p>1. The Gospel would be preached throughout the whole world. This would take a while to happen.</p><p></p><p>2. Many wars will happen, and nations will turn against each other. This is again, something requiring a considerable passage of time.</p><p></p><p>3. Many other things that people would consider to be signs, such as natural disasters, will happen, but Jesus would still not come.</p><p></p><p>And most importantly, as I've also already pointed out...<u><strong>JESUS DID NOT KNOW WHEN HE WAS COMING BACK.</strong></u> How could you say that Jesus believed He come back by your idea of soon when Jesus Himself didn't even know how long it would be?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GrayAngel, post: 59925520, member: 162431"] Actually, there is such a thing as Messianic Jews, and they accept the obvious fact that Jesus was the Messiah who was prophesied in the Old Testament. The other Jews will keep on waiting. You need to remove your Pentecostal status, because you are clearly not a Pentecostal. Right now, I'm having doubts that you are even a Christian. You obviously don't know what quick means. Try reading the Bible once and a while, then maybe you'll know enough to start talking about it. Jesus never put a time table on His return. The predictions made of events which would occur would require a long period of time to occur. There is absolutely no indication that Jesus believed He would return by [I]your[/I] definition of soon. For example: [U][B]2 Thessalonians 2:3[/B][/U] - [I]Dont let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day [the day of judgement] will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.[/I] The rebellion/falling away/apostasy is the abandonment of truth by the church. It would take time before the church would decay to such a degree. Now, 2000 years later, it is happening. Churches are no longer standing by the Bible. You are evidence of this. However, there are still some churches that attempt to follow the Bible, so I'm not sure the apostasy is complete yet. Also, as I've alluded to earlier: [U][B]Matthew 24:3-14[/B][/U] - [I]As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. Tell us, they said, when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age? Jesus answered: Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, I am the Messiah, and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains. Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.[/I] 1. The Gospel would be preached throughout the whole world. This would take a while to happen. 2. Many wars will happen, and nations will turn against each other. This is again, something requiring a considerable passage of time. 3. Many other things that people would consider to be signs, such as natural disasters, will happen, but Jesus would still not come. And most importantly, as I've also already pointed out...[U][B]JESUS DID NOT KNOW WHEN HE WAS COMING BACK.[/B][/U] How could you say that Jesus believed He come back by your idea of soon when Jesus Himself didn't even know how long it would be? [/QUOTE]
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