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<blockquote data-quote="Washington" data-source="post: 45678221" data-attributes="member: 8913"><p>I invite you to look at AiG's "Get Answers" web page and click on the links to the various topics it deems relevant to the creationist position:<p style="margin-left: 20px">Archeology</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Anthropology</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Astronomy and Astrophysics </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Cloning </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Created Kinds </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Design Features</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Dinosaurs </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Flood </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Fossils </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Genetics </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Geology</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Information Theory </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Mutations </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Natural Selection </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Plate Tectonics </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Science </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Speciation</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Thermodynamics and Order </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">&#8216;Vestigial&#8217; Organs </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp" target="_blank">source</a></p><p>And these are just the topics. Within each are numerous articles. </p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/evolprob.html" target="_blank">HERE</a> is another site that goes into the "Recent Problems in Evolution." </p><p> </p><p>So obviously creationists are quite concerned with more than just abiogenesis, which they shouldn't be concerned with at all because it isn't a factor in evolutionary theory. All of which prompts one to ask "why?" Why do creationists focus on arguing against abiogenesis when evolution doesn't require it? Are these people simply stupid? (a possibility) or are they being deceptive on purpose; creating a straw man in order to sling mud at evolution? (far more likely). And I believe it's the same reason some creationists like to connect evolution with atheism and even a Nazism, and other social ills.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>I don't see any "ostensibly" to it. It IS an attack on evolution. Evolution is exactly what the OP is about: "Why Evolution." To marginalize it is hardly fair. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>Oh, I have no doubt that only a few attacking creationists understand what evolution is all about---and those that do usually ignore the evidence---but never the less, most who attack evolution do so by addressing the evidence that under-girds evolution. </p><p> </p><p>See my links above. Creationists DO try to take on evolution on its terms, it just happens that they aren't any good at it. They don't attack its definition as such, but rather the <u>evidence</u> that supports it. And this is where any good attack should be made; on the evidnce. To show that "a change in the frequency in alleles within a population over time" does not result in the diversity of life we see, creationists attack everything they feel is relevant to the such a claim. This is why age is such a prominent issue in their attacks.</p><p> </p><p>Sure they are. It's just that creationists often focus on issues that science has long taken as fact or have found to be supported by current scientific evidence. How creationists consider evolution is exactly how evolutionists consider it: an explanation of the diversity of life. Evolutionists assert this explanation. Creationists deny it. Both are talking about the very same thing, even those creationists that get lost in their attacks..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Washington, post: 45678221, member: 8913"] I invite you to look at AiG's "Get Answers" web page and click on the links to the various topics it deems relevant to the creationist position:[INDENT]Archeology Anthropology Astronomy and Astrophysics Cloning Created Kinds Design Features Dinosaurs Flood Fossils Genetics Geology Information Theory Mutations Natural Selection Plate Tectonics Science Speciation Thermodynamics and Order ‘Vestigial’ Organs [/INDENT][INDENT][URL="http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp"]source[/URL][/INDENT]And these are just the topics. Within each are numerous articles. [URL="http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/evolprob.html"]HERE[/URL] is another site that goes into the "Recent Problems in Evolution." So obviously creationists are quite concerned with more than just abiogenesis, which they shouldn't be concerned with at all because it isn't a factor in evolutionary theory. All of which prompts one to ask "why?" Why do creationists focus on arguing against abiogenesis when evolution doesn't require it? Are these people simply stupid? (a possibility) or are they being deceptive on purpose; creating a straw man in order to sling mud at evolution? (far more likely). And I believe it's the same reason some creationists like to connect evolution with atheism and even a Nazism, and other social ills. I don't see any "ostensibly" to it. It IS an attack on evolution. Evolution is exactly what the OP is about: "Why Evolution." To marginalize it is hardly fair. Oh, I have no doubt that only a few attacking creationists understand what evolution is all about---and those that do usually ignore the evidence---but never the less, most who attack evolution do so by addressing the evidence that under-girds evolution. See my links above. Creationists DO try to take on evolution on its terms, it just happens that they aren't any good at it. They don't attack its definition as such, but rather the [U]evidence[/U] that supports it. And this is where any good attack should be made; on the evidnce. To show that "a change in the frequency in alleles within a population over time" does not result in the diversity of life we see, creationists attack everything they feel is relevant to the such a claim. This is why age is such a prominent issue in their attacks. Sure they are. It's just that creationists often focus on issues that science has long taken as fact or have found to be supported by current scientific evidence. How creationists consider evolution is exactly how evolutionists consider it: an explanation of the diversity of life. Evolutionists assert this explanation. Creationists deny it. Both are talking about the very same thing, even those creationists that get lost in their attacks.. [/QUOTE]
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