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And yet another bucketful.
How so?
It looks to me like you are afraid. In fact if you weren't afraid you would take me up on my offer so that you could make your claims legitimately. From the start I told you that you had to learn what evidence is before you could demand any or even ask for any from me.
The only one piling up buckets is you.
no, you have been posting numerous, one liners and not doing research into the posts. As can be evidenced by your lack of citation to any official works or papers.
You've dug a Grand Canyon of nothing.
Your request will take some time. I have time for quick response.
Plus you ran away when I offered to work on your one best quote when I had time. Why did you do that?
apparently you forgot that random variation happens through mutation, already addressed in the dissent doc:Boy either you are being incredibly dishonest or incredibly ignorant.
Natural selection is only part of the evolutionary process and it is either extremely dishonest or extremely ignorant to ignore the roll that random variation plays.
In case you did not know random variation is how new traits enter the genome. Natural selection is the one the keeps the good traits and gets rid of the bad traits.
We have plenty of proofs all through the ages. We can know it is right. That is the way God communicated with mankind. There is no other way to know right from wrong, good from bad. Nothing to do with robots.Then how can man know if God's word is right or wrong? You are saying that we are nothing more than amoral robots who are forced to follow instructions.
Your opinion is noted. God's word happens to be of more value.Your so called God's word is a terrible source for morality.
You can legally own slaves.
That beats modern society, they kill literally hundreds of millions of innocent babies for no crimes. God had to have a people, and He wanted to make them as pure as possible.The penalty for many petty crimes was death.
Even a smart mouthed kid was supposed to be stoned to death by his parents.
That is a good sign. Blessed is the man that walks the opposite way of the ungodly.None of that sounds to moral to me.
because for one, you say you are too busy in your last post. Yet you post here every three seconds. So your too busy for somethings and not others, we can all see it.
If I give you another quote it will fall on deaf ears, just pick two or three out of the list. You say you have time for a quick response. (but you are posting here every few minutes). Why not just decide to forfeit two or three posts, and give yourself 10 minutes to study?
apparently you forgot that random variation happens through mutation, already addressed in the dissent doc:
"We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged."
Sign - Dissent from Darwin
Wow!again, these are the only two mechanisms or engines of so called darwinian evolutionary (macro evolution). And at this point you have failed to address your point, and yourself are being "incredibly ignorant" of your said theory.
see this link for enlightening:
Evolution 101: Mutation Is Not "Directed"
anyway there are in fact other types of variation other than mutation, outbreeding, genetic drift etc. However all variation happens within an animal kind, in no way has variation crossed from one genus into another genus. And this is what they refer to .
We have plenty of proofs all through the ages. We can know it is right. That is the way God communicated with mankind. There is no other way to know right from wrong, good from bad. Nothing to do with robots.
Your opinion is noted. God's word happens to be of more value.
Jesus did that?? He set us free actually. You are slinging poop.
That beats modern society, they kill literally hundreds of millions of innocent babies for no crimes. God had to have a people, and He wanted to make them as pure as possible.
You are outside looking in on God's family of long ago, and pretending the house rules are supposed to apply everywhere. No.
That is a good sign. Blessed is the man that walks the opposite way of the ungodly.
DizreduxWe are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.
GradyGood grief, anybody who knows anything about evolution as it is currently seen would agree with this statement. Of course random mutation and natural selection alone do not account for the complexity of life. There are other mechanisms involved such as genetic drift which some think is just as powerful as natural selection especially in speciation.
You do understand that natural selection does not provide genetic variability, it reduces variability. If you do not understand this that I can see where some of your problems are. You are fighting against a TOE that does not exist in reality.okay then lets start with this: what are three skeptical items regarding natural selection's inability to provide genetic variablity of modern organisms?
DizI await your response. And note, this should not take too long seeing that "anybody who knows anything about evolution....would agree" with this skepticism.
Grady(Referring to the "careful examination of the evidence" section) Well "duh" what do you think biologists and scientists in related fields do? Do you think that in their training scientists are taught not to examine the evidence? You never know, you might indeed think that.
That concept only exists in you mind, not in reality. Macroevolution has been shown to you a number of times but you reject all that does not agree with you.but they don't examine the evidence, they presuppose it exists based on microevolutionary proof, and carry that truth on to macroevolution which has yet to be observed.
No, they are saying that "Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged". Do you really think that the evidence has not and is not being carefully examined and reexamined?What they are saying is that the evidence should be reinvestigated. Thats the context IMO.
GradyNeither does any other knowledgeable person.
Are you really and truly unaware that mutation and natural selection are not the only mechanisms involved with evolution? You couldn't possibly be so the only thing I can think of is strongly selective willful denial.explain evolution and how it works in your mind, because the typical evolutionist believes from the goo-to you- via the zoo. with natural selection and mutation as the only engines pushing the train.
GradyBecause that is what the evidence shows. What on earth is your problem with this?
DizI adressed this above
And you did just what I predicted. At least you didn't disappoint.One can easily deny that these are the only mechanisms involved in evolution. If fact if someone says that these two mechanisms are adequate to explain evolution then they have a rather serious case of ignorance about the subject.
You will, as usual reject this as you reject anything else that doesn't agree with you but readers can figure out what is going on.
You have been given examples of macroevolution over and over and you, with great determination, find ways of rejecting them all.then you reject darwinian evolution, and one what basis? Speculation. Because I doubt as with the other posters that you will not address the facts of the matter but dodge, once again, my request to back up what you say with examples.
GradySigh, Grady continues to be often wrong but never in doubt.
What on earth does this have to do with Christianity?addressing the post to me, and then talking to me in the third person is a bit rude, for a christian, that is. So please refrain.
OK, I don't see much of a problem here but since you do I will try hard not to do it in responses to you in the future.On the other hand, creating a post for the general public and labeling someone in the third person is fine, and I do that all the time. But not like what you did here.
Stellar evolution is based on the concept that nothing can explode and produce all of the stars and worlds.
However, in late 1918, Haeckel was an invalid and could not leave the second floor of
his home; thus, he was hardly in a position to join this Bavarian group.
"Friedrich Engels, one of the founders of Communism, wrote to Karl Marx, December 12, 1859, Darwin, whom I am just now reading, is splendid. "*C. Zirkle, Evolution, Marxian Biology, and the Social Scene (1959), p. 85.
"Karl Marx wrote to Friedrich Engels, December 19, 1860, Although it is developed in the crude English style, this is the book which contains the basis in natural history for our views. "*C. Zirkle, Evolution, Marxian Biology, and the Social Scene (1959), p. 88.
"Ernst Haeckel (1834-1919) was an avid, self-appointed spokesman for Darwinism in Germany . . Haeckel professed a mystical belief in the forces of nature and a literal transfer of the laws of biology to the social realm. The movement he founded in Germany was proto-Nazi in character; romantic Volkism and theMonist League (established 1906), along with evolution and science, laid the ideological foundations of [German] National Socialism.
because for one, you say you are too busy in your last post. Yet you post here every three seconds. So your too busy for somethings and not others, we can all see it.
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