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Why don't more creationists think like Todd Wood?

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Yeah, yeah, we get it - you want everyone to think you are just so smart and clever.

Pity your expertise does not extend to the topics that you pontificate in on this forum. Egotism does that - especially when one also suffers from the Dunning-Kruger effect.
 
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Of the 29,171 comments I have posted here how many do you think are devoid of rationale?

I'd say about 90% of those relating to science, based on what I have read.

I mean:

"How do you think unconscious vocal signals get to the brain so fast when a person, or a giraffe, is suddenly surprised or frightened?"

Really?



And are you going to judge them all by a few speculative theories presented for their entertainment value (if only to myself)?
I judge them by their content and their relationship to established, understood science. I also judge them by whether or not the poster later, after realizing that they've been outed as a Dunning-Kruger effect exemplar, pretends that their previous pontifications and assertions were really just for 'entertainment'.
And do you think I care?
You clearly do not, for your ego gratification needs and unyielding desires to prop up your religious beliefs outweigh any sense of humility or integrity you may have had at some time in the past.
 
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If one is financially secure he can gamble in the stock market with a few bucks.
 
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So you don't think the world would be a better place if there were more people like me?
 
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Zooom - so you do not understand what begging the question is.

Typical.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach." "Cool Hand Luke" (1967), "Captain" the prison warden, played by Strother Martin. Then the first sentence repeated by the prisoner, Luke, played by Paul Newman.
 
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The gap theory is mostly popular with those who think
that there was a previous earth which was destroyed by
the fall of Satan. God then had to rebuild the earth from
the ruins of the old one. This is their way of reconciling
evolutionary time periods and the literal bible, which can
only be interpreted as having a recent 6 day creation.
 
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You can’t have a very high opinion of yourself then.

Flaming, by the way. But I expect it from those
who have nothing better to offer.

It would be much easier to go with the rest
of the herd of sheeple, but I can't give up
the bad habit of thinking things through,
where many people are about as deep as
a page of paper because they let others do
their thinking for them.

Speaking of which, have you ever checked out gas
equations for yourself and seen why it is not possible
for gas giants, much less stars to form?

Have you ever thought about the conditions in space
and why it is impossible for dust and debris to become
anything more than dust and debris? Like planets?
 
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Speaking of which, have you ever checked out gas equations for yourself and seen why it is not possible
for gas giants, much less stars to form?

PV = nRT

Over here that is known as schoolboy physics. So what exactly has it got to do with gravitational collapse?
 
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Those "creationists" are ignored, or are given some other name. There are many "creationists" that I know who have no problem reconciling the valid parts of any scientific paradigm, and their faith. I do it all the time, but I also do not believe I am a creationist in the colloquial sense.

The problem lies with people's minds, a lack of imagination (ability to entertain simultaneity), and general prejudices and social pressures. It goes both ways; academics should not be automatically lauded because of their intellectual or authoritative position. It is due to intellectual fault; many people do not realize they are socially and intellectually programmed to think a certain way, and attack a paradigm that challenges theirs. It has become innate in the newer generation of academics. This Todd Wood is not an anomaly; I have seen similar arguments on these forums, but those people usually just say their peace and do not engage in the minutia of the aforementioned intellectual faults.

I know at least once that I said that the theory of evolution is a scientific model that works, and works especially well for people who do not subscribe to a religion or relationship with a deity. But, I have significant mathematical problems with evolution; this usually erases the former part of my position on evolution, and there isn't enough time to count before I am called a science denier, or a religious nut (despite being a mathematician, and approaching the issue mathematically.) It happens on here, and it happens in academia. The problem isn't with the paradigm; the problem is the mentality (intellectual and social) of humans.


These camps are arguing two sides of the same coin, and it will never get to a juxtaposition of creationism and evolution until people attain grander/more appropriate imaginations.
 
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"What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach." "Cool Hand Luke" (1967), "Captain" the prison warden, played by Strother Martin. Then the first sentence repeated by the prisoner, Luke, played by Paul Newman.
Thats great.
But it does not explain your replies as indicated:



Looks like a non sequitur, to me.

Or:


What was over my head? That you think circular reasoning is logical? No, I got that.
 
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Thats great.
But it does not explain your replies as indicated:




Looks like a non sequitur, to me.

Or:



What was over my head? That you think circular reasoning is logical? No, I got that.
To be fair, it's not really circular reasoning. It assumes the premise that Genesis was written by God and is a 100% accurate literal account of creation.
 
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But we are not talking about the gap theory. I never mentioned nor do I believe in the gap theory. I though my post pretty much explained that.
 
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PV = nRT

Over here that is known as schoolboy physics. So what exactly has it got to do with gravitational collapse?

"A star is born when atoms of light elements are squeezed under enough pressure for their nuclei to undergo fusion."
How is a star born?

How do you get such a weak force as gravity to gather
enough gas together in space, with nothing to constrain
it, and put it under enough pressure to make it collapse
into a gas planet, much less a star?

The most basic gas equations tell you it's impossible.
Star Formation

And it only gets worse. Early in big bang time, all the
matter and energy were travelling apart from each other
at nearly the speed of light. There is no way they got close
enough for gravity to affect them. So, where did the early
stars come from?
 
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And yet we've observed it.
Revolutionary ALMA Image Reveals Planetary Genesis

The most basic gas equations tell you it's impossible.

Strange that Some Dude On The Internet knows this but astrophysicists worldwide do not.
 
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But we are not talking about the gap theory. I never mentioned nor do I believe in the gap theory. I though my post pretty much explained that.

No, you just brought up a gap that literally isn't there.

I went back to recheck your argument. The gap you
see doesn't matter, except to say that, for some reason,
God could have just let the earth set alone, unfinished
for an unspecified period of time. Why do you think he
would have done that and then specified that the rest
of creation took six days about six thousand years ago?
 
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Did you read carefully? I see a lot of wishful thinking.
Belief. Not science.

"These features are almost certainly the result of young planet-like bodies that are being formed in the disc. This is surprising since such young stars are not expected to have large planetary bodies capable of producing the structures we see in this image," said Stuartt Corder, ALMA Deputy Director.

“When we first saw this image we were astounded at the spectacular level of detail. HL Tauri is no more than a million years old, yet already its disc appears to be full of forming planets."


Strange that Some Dude On The Internet knows this but astrophysicists worldwide do not.

Trust me, they know it. Here is one of the most honest quotes.

Neil deGrasse Tyson: we don't understand the most fundamental aspects of our universe

"Not all gas clouds in the Milky Way can form stars at all times. More often than not, the cloud is confused about what to do next. Actually, astrophysicists are the confused ones here. We know the cloud wants to collapse under its own weight to make one or more stars. But rotation as well as turbulent motion within the cloud work against that fate.So, too, does the ordinary gas pressure you learned about in high-school chemistry class. Galactic magnetic fields also fight collapse: they penetrate the cloud and latch onto any free-roaming charged particles contained therein,restricting the ways in which the cloud will respond to its self-gravity. The scary part is that if none of us knew in advance that stars exist, frontline research would offer plenty of convincing reasons for why stars could never form."
Death by Black Hole: And Other Cosmic Quandaries - PDF Free Download
 
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