Why does this creature have legs?

akaDaScribe · Apr 27, 2018

Have guys looked into game creation? You don’t have to master it, but just understanding what goes into it and what is possible, it can give you different perspective.

Think about it. We are within 100 years(probably much sooner) of being able to make a cyber universe and/or cyber universes. Ironically that universe would be built out of a language (code). With advanced enough algorithms we can currently build unique forests, buildings, creatures, etc. We could probably even design that universe to kick off from one bang or run 7 programs to set things up a certain way. The funny part is that the contents of that universe would probably never know that there is a computer powering it.

I get the whole gnostic thing. But atheists, I really don’t understand. The more advanced we become, the more apparent it should be that something before us set this system up. Why? Because we will soon be capable of doing the same thing on a computer and when we are, we will do it.

Hank77 · Apr 27, 2018

brinny said:
Thank you for your response. However, the bones for flippers are not legs. They were never meant to walk. Their body is formed for what they do best, and that is to torpedo, etc. through the water like a missile, amongst other things.

And they do not have "feet" either.

Flippers are flippers.

They just are.

It is what it is.

Still an interesting thread, however.

Thank you.

I agree, a flipper is a flipper.
And because the bone structure is the same as in an actual leg and foot does not conclusively rule out a Creator. It just isn't direct evidence for or against creative design by a Creator.

brinny · Apr 27, 2018

Hank77 said:
I agree, a flipper is a flipper.
And because the bone structure is the same as in an actual leg and foot does not conclusively rule out a Creator. It just isn't direct evidence for or against creative design by a Creator.

I agree. A flipper cannot be anything other than a flipper.

And what a wunnerful flipper it doth make.

Hank77 · Apr 27, 2018

tas8831 said:
Wow - talk about distractions!

Who was it that brought you computer coding?

tas8831 · Apr 27, 2018

akaDaScribe said:
But atheists, I really don’t understand.

Clearly...

tas8831 · Apr 27, 2018

Hank77 said:
Who was it that brought you computer coding?

Not me.

This thread is about seals having completely formed pelvi and leg bones.

tas8831 · Apr 27, 2018

Hank77 said:
What? Sorry I don't understand what you are referring to?

"My evidence cannot be observed by anyone else, therefore, my evidence isn't useful to
you."

If it cannot be seen by anyone else, it is not evidence, just a story.

Hank77 · Apr 27, 2018

tas8831 said:
"My evidence cannot be observed by anyone else, therefore, my evidence isn't useful to
you."

If it cannot be seen by anyone else, it is not evidence, just a story.

I agree, it's not evidence to anyone else, that is exactly what I said. Do we have a communication problem? Repeating what I said doesn't progress your argument.

You can't prove to me that your wife loves you. Only you can know that. Any outside evidence is merely circumstantial, not direct evidence.

Leg and foot bone structure in a seal flipper is not direct evidence against there being a Creator, anymore than it's direct evidence for a Creator.

A_Thinker · Apr 27, 2018

tas8831 said:
I like these arguments - they rely on an unwarranted extrapolation - this assumption that ALL science is basically wrong and will be 'changed' or rejected at some point.

Noone is making such an assumption ... it doesn't have to be all black or white.

tas8831 said:
It is interesting though, that scientific concepts that were at least consistent with biblical lore, if not inspired by it, are the 'science' claims that generally turn out not to be true at all. The geocentric solar system, for example.

There is no biblical support for a geocentric solar system ...

akaDaScribe · Apr 27, 2018

tas8831 said:
Clearly...

That's your response? thx, saved me a lot of time

Speedwell · Apr 27, 2018

Hank77 said:
Leg and foot bone structure in a seal flipper is not direct evidence against there being a Creator, anymore than it's direct evidence for a Creator.

But it might be evidence for evolution.

Speedwell · Apr 27, 2018

A_Thinker said:
There is no biblical support for a geocentric solar system ...

But that did not stop people from claiming they found it there.

TheSeeker2014 · Apr 27, 2018

those legs help it hop around on land to get away from whales.

A_Thinker · Apr 27, 2018

Speedwell said:
But that did not stop people from claiming they found it there.

Nothing stops anyone from CLAIMING ANYTHING ...

Hank77 · Apr 27, 2018

Speedwell said:
But it might be evidence for evolution.

Yes it is circumstantial evidence for evolution.

Bugeyedcreepy · Apr 27, 2018

brinny said:
I agree. A flipper cannot be anything other than a flipper.

And what a wunnerful flipper it doth make.

I'm curious, is the penguin's flipper not analogous to pretty much any other bird wing?

driewerf · Apr 28, 2018

tas8831 said:
I've never claimed to be able to 'create' anything. I am told, rather frequently, that God's designs are "perfect."

It's the Fall, dude. It's always the Fall.
If it's good it's evidence of god's perfection, and if it's flawed it was the Fall.
So christianity always win and you better convert.

driewerf · Apr 28, 2018

Tree of Life said:
If it seems "sloppy" or "inefficient" then you must have some standard in your mind of what a perfect seal would be like. Just because it "seems" sloppy to you does not mean it's actually sloppy. You just don't like it for some reason.

So god's mind is too sophisticated for us humble humans to understand?

Tree of Life · Apr 28, 2018

driewerf said:
So god's mind is to sophisticated for us humble humans to understand?

Yes. We can understand enough of God's mind to be saved and to know what he wants us to do. But it is presumptuous to suppose we can understand God's purposes for everything he has made in exhaustive detail.

driewerf · Apr 28, 2018

Tree of Life said:
Yes. We can understand enough of God's mind to be saved and to know what he wants us to do. But it is presumptuous to suppose we can understand God's purposes for everything he has made in exhaustive detail.

Kind of easy cop out, don't you think?

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