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Why does Mormonism want to be Associated with Christianity?

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To be fair the Trinity is a human paradox, so if you can't understand it, you really don't know what you really believe in.

Many folks do seem to have serious problems trying to figure out how God can be One God, with three distinct personalities. I find that odd, given that God is omnipotent...He is all powerful...omniscient...there is nothing He doesn't know...and omnipresent...He is everywhere.
I think that "Trinity" is a rather clumsy word for it, myself. I much prefer the term "Godhead".

In Jesus dwells the Godhead fully. A paradox? Perhaps. If we insist on placing our own limits on God, then it becomes an impossibility.

Here, for your enjoyment, is a little piece I wrote when I was quite young:

Trinity

Lo, here is a mystery
Our God, Who is Three in One
Behold, the Holy Trinity
The Father, The Spirit and The Son
More than we can understand
How can such a strange thing be
We cannot, with the mind of man
Comprehend infinity
We must simply trust His Word
Believe that He is One in Three
For we know "Thus saith the Lord"
That is enough for you and me
c 1963​
 
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I think you are putting words in my mouth.

I'm just saying it is a HUMAN paradox.

I completely forgive people if they don't believe in something that even the greatest theologians have a hard time defining.
 
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Hi,
Things have just become wonderful this week, thank-you. It seems I had to go through several years of getting used to several things. Amazingly, it seems total honesty with myself and God, and revealing myself to the entire world, in human elements but also in the spiritual ways was important. I now reveal to everyone, exactly who and what I am since roughly May of 2014. Now, a week ago, I am perfect again in worship (love). It has been a long time.
LOVE,
...Katherina., .... .
P.S. And you are right. I was led to where I should be.
...Katie., .... .
 
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I think you are putting words in my mouth.

I'm just saying it is a HUMAN paradox.

I completely forgive people if they don't believe in something that even the greatest theologians have a hard time defining.

The words that I typed came out of my mouth, not yours.
Perhaps those great theologians have had such a difficult time is because they have been complicating something that is really quite simple.

Perhaps it is a HUMAN paradox because we can't seem to see past our own limitations to realize the Awesome Majesty of the Almighty God, Creator of all things seen and unseen...
 
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so you don't think the bible says God created everything? who did create everything?

No. God did not create Satan. Satan created himself because he wouldn't follow God. Satan was even more subtil than any beast God had created.
God created everything we see by organizing it. Before that there was nothing to see because it was scattered across space. So God created everything that we see here, but it wasn't from nothing as most Christians believe. Nor did God "create" our spirits. Our spirits are "breathed" into our bodies after our bodies are created, and will return to God if we follow Him. God created everything in this creation, but our spirits did not come from this creation.
 
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well that sounds like quite a big difference from what the bible teaches and even you admit that.
 
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well that sounds like quite a big difference from what the bible teaches and even you admit that.

I am not sure what your "issue" is, but I admit no such thing. The Bible does not teach God created the solar system nor this creation from nothing. I just finished giving a number of biblical references showing that it does NOT say that nor teach it. Of course, there are a number apparently like yourself who interpret it to say that God created everything ex nihilo, but I will not let you try to rope and tie me into saying that I interpret it that way or that is what it allegedly teaches, when it does not.
 
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doesn't it, so who did create everything?
 
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It sounds as though you've had some remarkable experiences. As to the question you pose (perhaps rhetorically)... "What more could I be shown?" I don't know. You might be surprised. Either way, the Restored Gospel still has something for you. Of that I am certain.

God bless.
 
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I think you missed the point. Jesus never "had designs" on God's throne.
I know. That's the point. Neither you nor I believe that He does, or ever did. But when you make comments about LDS doctrines, you presume that they signify that Jesus did, or does. And then you find fault with that belief. You see? You're straw-manning our beliefs. Hence, my original statement of two or so posts ago.
 
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Hi,
You make to me an interesting statement. For I almost cannot believe your response, of "You might be surprised." and "Either way, the Restored Gospel (Is that the book of Mormon? It has been awhile for me.) still has something for you. Of that I am certain." I was not expecting that response from you.
LOVE,
...Katherina., .... .
 
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Why does Mormonism want to be associated with Christianity?

A lot of the reason is to gain converts from the "apostate" Protestant and Roman Catholic churches.

The powerful missionary spirit and the vigorous missionary activity in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints becomes a very significant witness that the true gospel and that the authority are possessed here in the Church. We accept the responsibility to preach the gospel to every person on earth. And if the question is asked, “You mean you are out to convert the entire world?” the answer is, “Yes. We will try to reach every living soul.”
Ensign, November 1975

The first effect [of the atonement] is to secure to all mankind alike, exemption from the penalty of the fall, thus providing a plan of General Salvation. The second effect is to open a way for Individual Salvation whereby mankind may secure remission of personal sins. As these sins are the result of individual acts it is just that forgiveness for them should be conditioned on individual compliance with prescribed requirements - "obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel."
The Articles of Faith, James E. Talmage, page 87
1899, reprint 1977

Marion Romney (LDS First Presidency) said, "This Church is the ensign on the mountain spoken of by the Old Testament prophets. It is the way, the truth, and the life " (Conference Report, April, 1961, pg. 119).

Therefore it was made clearly manifest that salvation is in the Church, and of the Church, and is obtained only through the Church.
Mark E. Petersen, Salvation Comes through the Church, Ensign, July 1973
 
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Hi,
It seems Joseph Smith said this:

"God is in the still small voice. In all these affidavits, indictments, it is all of the devil—all corruption. Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on the top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet. You know my daily walk and conversation. I am in the bosom of a virtuous and good people. How I do love to hear the wolves howl! When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go. For the last three years I have a record of all my acts and proceedings, for I have kept several good, faithful, and efficient clerks in constant employ: they have accompanied me everywhere, and carefully kept my history, and they have written down what I have done, where I have been, and what I have said; therefore my enemies cannot charge me with any day, time, or place, but what I have written testimony to prove my actions; and my enemies cannot prove anything against me. They have got wonderful things in the land of Ham. I think the grand jury have strained at a gnat and swallowed the camel."

I am surprised, if this is true.
LOVE,
....Katherina., .... .
 
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The Book of Mormon is a part of the Restored Gospel. An important part, to be sure. But only a part. The Restored Gospel is all the truth that has been revealed to man up to this present day, and includes all revelation that is yet to be revealed to man.
 
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Joseph Smith did say these words. If you research the context in which he said them (both immediate and broad), you will better understand why he said them.
 
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Joseph Smith did say these words. If you research the context in which he said them (both immediate and broad), you will better understand why he said them.

Hi,
Thank-you for your responses. It is obvious that rightly or wrongly, you are comitted to Joseph Smith, and the religion that you belong to.
There is much I can say about God. I am not permitted to teach religion, but only talk about my knowledge of God, and share my experiences, of Him. It seems about religion, I am a poor teacher and this has been proven to me.
My dealings with God are extremely Trinitarian. Like Job, I have essentially seen God, as He is. I also have that relationship with Him, from the Question. I also have a relationship with Jesus, with The Holy Spirit, and with Mary also. This year, I have been for the first time, been dealing with angels and saints. I know how that works now.
Also, this year added by God, for you to know of me, is the concept of living saints, in general who they are, and what they are like. Recently, so you can suspect some of the depth of what God, has put me through, for His own reasons and actually pleasures, I know of one priest, not of Rome, but of Jesus, ordained personally by Him. That is extremely rare, and has a Biblical name. Abraham met that type of priest once, and gave him 10% of all he had.
I am extremely hesitant to say, and you have not asked me, what God had me say, to Mormon Missionaries for years. Neither have you been asking me, what the content of that emotional response was, after seeing The Essence of God, and having Jesus reveal His Core personalty to me, and seeing Mary as she was when she was older, immediately before she died., and then seeing and interfacing with LDS missionaries, soon after arriving home. I don't need to know why, you chose not to. I do not.
In closing and maybe in good-bye-4now, it actually saddened me, that you have not asked, one who verifiably knows God, what God is like.
LOVE,
...Katerina., .... .
 
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why do you consider it the restored gospel, what does it restore that the bible has not covered. do yu consider the book of mormon was inspired by god in the same way the bible was?
 
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why do you consider it the restored gospel, what does it restore that the bible has not covered. do yu consider the book of mormon was inspired by god in the same way the bible was?


I'd like to know that also. Unfortunately, the last time I asked him, our friend broke off the long-running discussion rather than attempt an answer. I was left to conclude that there isn't an answer.
 
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