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Why does god require praise?

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In the Bible your god apparently created the world as a praising ground for him. My question is, why does god need this self gratification? I could, with more programing iq, create a flash image that said, "Hail Ymeg!" yet I don't. If god knows all, he would know that creating puppets for his entertainment and glory would serve no purpose. Your god, insted of creating humans, could just summon more angles. He would know that his creation would mock him. In fact, I hate the entire supernatural beliefs, as do many others. I certainly would not have created a species, knowing they would doom them selfs.

Although, I am not a "god" I feel to be much superior. It's anybody s reality now.
 

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In the Bible your god apparently created the world as a praising ground for him. My question is, why does god need this self gratification? I could, with more programing iq, create a flash image that said, "Hail Ymeg!" yet I don't. If god knows all, he would know that creating puppets for his entertainment and glory would serve no purpose. Your god, insted of creating humans, could just summon more angles. He would know that his creation would mock him. In fact, I hate the entire supernatural beliefs, as do many others. I certainly would not have created a species, knowing they would doom them selfs.

Although, I am not a "god" I feel to be much superior. It's anybody s reality now.
Before creation, God PREDESTINED, that EVERY BELIEVER will make it to the adoption which will occur at the second coming of Christ. He gave us a free will to choose Him or choose the "flesh". Salvaton is given freely to anyone who accepts HIS FREE GIFT OF GRACE. He doesn't have to do it this way. He could have decided another way for salvation for his creation. But since this is HIS WILL, then it is what it is..... Accept Him and "live" or deny Him and "die".
 
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In the Bible your god apparently created the world as a praising ground for him. My question is, why does god need this self gratification? I could, with more programing iq, create a flash image that said, "Hail Ymeg!" yet I don't. If god knows all, he would know that creating puppets for his entertainment and glory would serve no purpose. Your god, insted of creating humans, could just summon more angles. He would know that his creation would mock him. In fact, I hate the entire supernatural beliefs, as do many others. I certainly would not have created a species, knowing they would doom them selfs.

Although, I am not a "god" I feel to be much superior. It's anybody s reality now.

You have some serious ego issues.

And no questions in this Post...

God Bless

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MY FRIEND,

In the Bible your god apparently created the world as a praising ground for him. My question is, why does god need this self gratification? I could, with more programing iq, create a flash image that said, "Hail Ymeg!" yet I don't. If god knows all, he would know that creating puppets for his entertainment and glory would serve no purpose. Your god, insted of creating humans, could just summon more angles. He would know that his creation would mock him. In fact, I hate the entire supernatural beliefs, as do many others. I certainly would not have created a species, knowing they would doom them selfs.

Although, I am not a "god" I feel to be much superior. It's anybody s reality now.

All that is--including each one of us--was created by a Loving Heavenly Father.

Giving Praise to our Loving Heavenly Father is His just due because our Praise is an expression of our gratitude for all that we have received, through His unlimited Grace, from His Loving and Merciful Hands.

For those who know God personally, ingratitude--i.e., a lack of Praise--would be unthinkable.

Those unfortunates who REFUSE, through the exercise of their freewill, to know their Creator have, indeed, "doomed themselves" as you say.

MAY YOU NOT BE ONE OF THEM!

A BOND-SLAVE OF CHRIST,
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In the Bible your god apparently created the world as a praising ground for him. My question is, why does god need this self gratification? I could, with more programing iq, create a flash image that said, "Hail Ymeg!" yet I don't. If god knows all, he would know that creating puppets for his entertainment and glory would serve no purpose. Your god, insted of creating humans, could just summon more angles. He would know that his creation would mock him. In fact, I hate the entire supernatural beliefs, as do many others. I certainly would not have created a species, knowing they would doom them selfs.

Although, I am not a "god" I feel to be much superior. It's anybody s reality now.
I agree. He doesn't. People choose to praise God and get excited without synicism, obviously. Life is a pretty awesome gift to have, and we have the free will to bless or curse others with life.

Luke 19:37 Right at the crest, where Mount Olives begins its descent, the whole crowd of disciples burst into enthusiastic praise over all the mighty works they had witnessed:
38 Blessed is he who comes, the king in God’s name! All’s well in heaven! Glory in the high places!
39 Some Pharisees from the crowd told him, "Teacher, get your disciples under control!"
40 But he said, "If they kept quiet, the stones would do it for them, shouting praise."
 
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MY FRIEND,

I agree. He doesn't. People choose to praise God and get excited without synicism, obviously. Life is a pretty awesome gift to have, and we have the free will to bless or curse others with life.

Luke 19:37 Right at the crest, where Mount Olives begins its descent, the whole crowd of disciples burst into enthusiastic praise over all the mighty works they had witnessed:
38 Blessed is he who comes, the king in God’s name! All’s well in heaven! Glory in the high places!
39 Some Pharisees from the crowd told him, "Teacher, get your disciples under control!"
40 But he said, "If they kept quiet, the stones would do it for them, shouting praise."

It occurs to me that the process of Praising God benefits those who do the praising, not God who receives the praise but does not really need it.
WE, OF COURSE, ARE VERY MUCH IN NEED OF GIVING PRAISE, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN SO OUR HUMILITY BEFORE GOD REMAINS INTACT.

"HE HAS SHOWED YOU, O MAN, WHAT IS GOOD.
AND WHAT DOES THE LORD REQUIRE OF YOU?
TO ACT JUSTLY AND TO LOVE MERCY AND
TO WALK HUMBLY WITH YOUR GOD."
(Micah 6:8)

A BOND-SLAVE OF CHRIST,
ephraim
 
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It's a matter of giving respect where respect is due
The word "praise" is often saved for religious purposes, but we also praise our children, or a peace prize winner. It usually accompanies expression of fondness, and sometimes gratitude.

Praise is mostly an expression of appreciation.

The imagery of God as our Father is often disturbing to people who saw their own fathers as unreasonable or irresponsible, especially if the father was abusive or had addictions. We would find little reason to praise a bad father, and would probably withhold the little praise he deserved just to make things feel fair. You might thank him for letting you borrow the car, but in a disgruntled way.

Praise is a healthy part of a relationship.

Imagine having a friend that you never complimented. You would go on talking about yourself, and never allow them attention or respect for what they had done or said. Imagine allowing someone that close into your life, and never recognizing their worth.

That's what it's like. It's not healthy for us to be so focused on ourselves. He doesn't need our praise; we need it. Don't worry, it's reciprocal.
 
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God doesn't "need" our praise, he's self-sufficient. He deserves it though for he is Holy and perfectly righteous.

Angels praise and worship God, but they are not puppets, any more than we are. Angels have free will. We know this because 1/3rd of the angels rebelled and were cast down to earth along with Satan. Now they worship and serve him rather than the Living God.

But to answer your question, God doesn't need our praise. He desires it out of a relationship with us, because when we truly realize who he is, we WANT to praise him for his goodness and for who he is. :bow:
 
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It's a matter of giving respect where respect is due. You may not like your boss, but because of the position he is in, you must respect him and his decisions or you will be out of a job.


Yes, however, our boss did not create us. Your god created us for respect, why did he do this? An all powerful god could just no do it. He knows he is perfect, no reason to create a species that will screw its self through the "free will" it was given.
 
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Hello Ymeng :)
I've always thought it unfortunate how many fundamental misconceptions there are floating around about the very core of what it means to be Christian. I can understand your question because it is an evident ‘discrepancy of logic’ in the outward appearance of some practicing Christians’ doctrine.

God did not create us to praise him, nor does he require our praise (more on this later). That would be, as you said, like programming a message to pop up on our monitors saying 'you're the best!' every 20 seconds.

If you could picture for a moment that you were a mad scientist designing your 'dream wife'. If you made her a mindless robot who served your every whim and had no choice to do other wise, all her actions would be meaningless. They would just be you stroking your own ego through your creation. The wife you designed would have to have the freewill to choose to love you or not for her actions to mean anything.

If you made 5 potential wives with free will and 4 of them decided they hated you, would you destroy them and only leave the one that loved you? That would be the same thing as only making robots that said they loved you in the first place just to stroke your own ego.

If you were married and, let’s say, made your wife breakfast in bed, what would be your reason for doing this? It would not be because you mindlessly wanted to stroke her ego regardless of her merits. It would be because she had earned your love and respect through her own actions. Making her breakfast would not be your duty, but it would be a natural expression or result of your love for her. So does a true Christian not 'worship' God out of duty, but as a natural expression of our reverence for what he is.

In my life, God has earned my reverence (a.k.a. worship) through his actions- through my understanding of the truth and perfection in his creation which is woven into the very world around us. I would never, and God does not want me to, worship out of duty, but it happens as a natural expression of the love I have for God.

The full view of God's mind and reasons (such as why he created us) are known only to himself. As humans, we can only see little parts here and there. Humans don’t like things they can’t wrap their minds around and too often we have limited knowledge but still expect to understand and quantify everything. We are like children in a candy store gorging ourselves and wondering why we feel sick. The child believes his actions are right because he doesn’t understand the full picture.

The path of a true Christian is one that seeks truth, but understands that the full truth will not be known is this world. However, we may know as much of the truth as we need to if we only seek it.

Ymeng: You seem passionate about this seeming hypocrisy in worship. That is a good thing. Every Christian must start his journey with a longing for truth, and it is love of truth that causes irritation over hypocrisy. Truth and God can not be separated; they must, by their very definition, be the same thing. So if you love truth, you are already on your way to loving God :)
 
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Ymeg--

The people God wants to praise Him are the people who love Him in Spirit and in truth. When one receives the Holy Spirit into their heart you will want to praise Him. It will come natural like eating.

Is it requirement? Will the question that we should be asking is that does it come natural? It depends on the individual. Do they have the Holy Spirit in their lifes? If not, then it won't come natural at all and the world says that God is on a "ego trip". No, God is righteous and just and isn't on ego trip. He deserves our praise and love because He is the Creator and we are the creatures. We are manufactured to contain the Holy Spirit and love Him back.
 
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Robin, thank you for your post. I liked how you explained how my logic may be wrong through a explanatory post and not bible quotes or "May god have mercy"/"You will burn in hell" (Key...) I can slightly see a bit more on how your thought process is on this subject.
 
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