Why does God object to same sex coupling?

[levi501]

This question is for those of you who believe homosexuality is a sin.

Why do you think God objects to same sex coupling in this day and age?
Most (if not all) other sins have a demonstrable harm that can be proven.
But for two people of the same sex that love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together why does God object?
I'm just curious as to what you think his/her rationale is.

 

[Gishin]

This question is for those of you who believe homosexuality is a sin.

Why do you think God objects to same sex coupling in this day and age?
Most (if not all) other sins have a demonstrable harm that can be proven.
But for two people of the same sex that love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together why does God object?
I'm just curious as to what you think his/her rationale is.

It was projected onto God by the people who wrote the Bible.

 

[andross77]

This question is for those of you who believe homosexuality is a sin.

Why do you think God objects to same sex coupling in this day and age?
Most (if not all) other sins have a demonstrable harm that can be proven.
But for two people of the same sex that love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together why does God object?
I'm just curious as to what you think his/her rationale is.

God created man and woman for each other sexually. The reason we know this is because His Word says it. A physical reason we know this is because He made them have complimentary sex organs.

I don't know why God views same sex sexual relations as sin. But I know He does because His Word says it. That is one question I will definitely ask Him. I will have many "why" questions for Him.

Also, God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. So yesterday He viewed same sex sexual relations as sin, today He does and tomorrow He will.

God doesn't cower to the changes in culture or "the times" as most people do.

 

[lawtonfogle]

This question is for those of you who believe homosexuality is a sin.

Why do you think God objects to same sex coupling in this day and age?
Most (if not all) other sins have a demonstrable harm that can be proven.
But for two people of the same sex that love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together why does God object?
I'm just curious as to what you think his/her rationale is.

Back in the day, homosexuality would have been against His 'reproduce and feel the earth' command. These days, since we have already filled the earth, maybe the only reason has past into history?

 

[flicka]

God created man and woman for each other sexually. The reason we know this is because His Word says it. A physical reason we know this is because He made them have complimentary sex organs.

I don't know why God views same sex sexual relations as sin. But I know He does because His Word says it. That is one question I will definitely ask Him. I will have many "why" questions for Him.

Also, God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. So yesterday He viewed same sex sexual relations as sin, today He does and tomorrow He will.

God doesn't cower to the changes in culture or "the times" as most people do.

I find it odd that people devote themselves to something they don't understand.

 

[Ectezus]

Also, God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. So yesterday He viewed same sex sexual relations as sin, today He does and tomorrow He will.

God doesn't cower to the changes in culture or "the times" as most people do.

Yeah changing your mind is so horrible! Lets ignore all possible factors and just think what we've always thought. It's better to be stuborn than admit you made a mistake right?

 

[andross77]

Yeah changing your mind is so horrible! Lets ignore all possible factors and just think what we've always thought. It's better to be stuborn than admit you made a mistake right?

lol, God created everything we see and don't see. God is outside of time and inside time. God created time.

Yes, for God to change His mind would be a HORRIBLE thing. That would mean He isn't perfect. But God is perfect and He doesn't change His mind.

For humans to change their mind, it is good if they are changing from thinking lies to embracing truth. The reverse is a bad change. But all humans change their minds because they grow in knowledge.

God is not stubborn. He is just right. He is Truth. He is Life.

People that don't agree with God and that trample on His Laws and reject His love....those people are the stubborn ones.

 

[andross77]

I find it odd that people devote themselves to something they don't understand.

I do to. But that's imperfect humans for you. Thanks for posting.

 

[Jade Margery]

lol, God created everything we see and don't see. God is outside of time and inside time. God created time.

Yes, for God to change His mind would be a HORRIBLE thing. That would mean He isn't perfect. But God is perfect and He doesn't change His mind.

But... aren't there lots of instances in the Bible where god changed his mind about something? And what is the point of prayer, if your god does not rethink his decisions? If he's got a great plan and all, praying for him to change it is as ineffective as a fly trying to change a bulldozer's direction.

 

[jayem]

But... aren't there lots of instances in the Bible where god changed his mind about something?

God sure seemed to change his mind about circumcision, and resting on the 7th day, and sacrificing bulls, and not eating shellfish, and 600 or so other commands. But that's another thread...

 

[rosenherman]

I find it odd that people devote themselves to something they don't understand.

What do you mean? Heteros trying to save homo's souls from Hell by letting them know that although they don't understand being attracted to the same sex, they do know it's wrong?

 

[rosenherman]

lol, God created everything we see and don't see. God is outside of time and inside time. God created time.

Yes, for God to change His mind would be a HORRIBLE thing. That would mean He isn't perfect. But God is perfect and He doesn't change His mind.

For humans to change their mind, it is good if they are changing from thinking lies to embracing truth. The reverse is a bad change. But all humans change their minds because they grow in knowledge.

God is not stubborn. He is just right. He is Truth. He is Life.

People that don't agree with God and that trample on His Laws and reject His love....those people are the stubborn ones.

 

[rosenherman]

But... aren't there lots of instances in the Bible where god changed his mind about something? And what is the point of prayer, if your god does not rethink his decisions? If he's got a great plan and all, praying for him to change it is as ineffective as a fly trying to change a bulldozer's direction.

He may have changed His mind in response to prayer, that is His choice. As long as it isn't wrong or bad for you He may answer yes to prayers. We don't have the ability to see His plan and how this will change that. So that He'll say no to something you pray for, or wait. The point of prayer isn't so much to change God's mind as it is to change the pray-er's mind to accept that what God is doing is the best.

 

[andross77]

But... aren't there lots of instances in the Bible where god changed his mind about something? And what is the point of prayer, if your god does not rethink his decisions? If he's got a great plan and all, praying for him to change it is as ineffective as a fly trying to change a bulldozer's direction.

God does not change His mind. First you will have to bring up a specific circumstance in Scripture where you think He changes His mind and then we can address it.

What jayem was trying to say is that there was an Age of the Law and now there is the Age of Grace. God has not changed His mind. He still needs to deal justly with sin and there is still sacrifice needed to pay for sin.

to understand how prayer works with a sovereign God is a hard topic. Scripture teaches that God is sovereign and that we have free will. God's overarching plan for Creation has not and will not ever change: that is that it would bring Him glory and that it would be in relationship with Him. "day-to-day" details can be changed when someone goes to the Father in prayer.

Those 2 ideas are not in contradiction and are actually in perfect concert. Good question though.

 

[andross77]

Also, i agree with Rosenherman. The point of prayer is not to ask for things: like i want a car, or i want to be healed. The point of prayer is to align our will with the Father's so that our prayers are always in the vein of, "God, let your will be done on earth as it is in heaven!"

When our desires become God's desires, prayers start getting answered in amazing ways. Read any biography on George Muller and you will see how effective prayers are from someone who follows Jesus and tries to align their will with His.

If you think you can ask for a new mercedes to drop from the sky or that nasty zit on your chin to disappear when you say one prayer...you will be sorely disappointed.

 

[b&wpac4]

God does not change His mind. First you will have to bring up a specific circumstance in Scripture where you think He changes His mind and then we can address it.

He decided not to destroy the city of [SIZE=+1][FONT=Times, Times New Roman, Serif][SIZE=+0]Nineveh after they repented. I will grant that God may have never intended to destroy the city and the whole point was to allow them to repent, but God did change His mind.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT]

 

[mpok1519]

lol, God created everything we see and don't see. God is outside of time and inside time. God created time.

Yes, for God to change His mind would be a HORRIBLE thing. That would mean He isn't perfect. But God is perfect and He doesn't change His mind.

For humans to change their mind, it is good if they are changing from thinking lies to embracing truth. The reverse is a bad change. But all humans change their minds because they grow in knowledge.

God is not stubborn. He is just right. He is Truth. He is Life.

People that don't agree with God and that trample on His Laws and reject His love....those people are the stubborn ones.

Well, too bad it would be immoral/unethical to legislate based upon what a religion thinks I suppose. And since God is against immorality(ie, pandering religion for political purposes), God today would be all for legal homosexual marriage.

God doesn't change His mind? So, when Abraham was told by Him to kill his son, and then said "Wait, no, it was just a test" He didn't change His mind, He just lied and said "It was just a trick to see how faithful you are", thats not changing His mind, its, just, lying first?

God doesn't change His mind? Weird; last I checked it was against His law to eat pork or shrimp, or to be incircumcised. But, we dont see a "pork agenda" or a "uncircumcised agenda", no, its a "gay agenda".

 

[rosenherman]

Well, too bad it would be immoral/unethical to legislate based upon what a religion thinks I suppose. And since God is against immorality(ie, pandering religion for political purposes), God today would be all for legal homosexual marriage.

God doesn't change His mind? So, when Abraham was told by Him to kill his son, and then said "Wait, no, it was just a test" He didn't change His mind, He just lied and said "It was just a trick to see how faithful you are", thats not changing His mind, its, just, lying first?

God doesn't change His mind? Weird; last I checked it was against His law to eat pork or shrimp, or to be incircumcised. But, we dont see a "pork agenda" or a "uncircumcised agenda", no, its a "gay agenda".

Jesus removed the kosher laws, He restated that God finds homosexuality a sin. Two completely different things.

 

[Veyrlian]

What jayem was trying to say is that there was an Age of the Law and now there is the Age of Grace. God has not changed His mind. He still needs to deal justly with sin and there is still sacrifice needed to pay for sin.

An Age of Grace? I think it is very disgraceful to discriminate against gays.

Or are you supposed to do your gay-bashing with a feather hat and a flourish?

 

[Veyrlian]

Jesus removed the kosher laws, He restated that God finds homosexuality an abomination. Two completely different things.

Where did Jesus restate that?